Transsexual to learn breast op cash ruling

[Blasphemous]

When events such as the Japanese Tsunami are going on it brings other areas of life into focus....

A transsexual will find out later whether she has won a court battle in her bid to secure NHS funding for a breast enlargement operation.

C, who suffers from gender identity dysphoria (GID) was born "male" but has been living as a woman for more than a decade.

Her breasts have failed to develop to a size considered "appropriate" to her frame despite hormonal treatment which began in 1996.

The 59-year-old, who lives in the Reading area, was described by a QC as left in physical and psychological "limbo".

She has described facing "abuse and hostility" in public because she is still not seen as a woman. She said youths had called her "all kinds of names".

Her lawyers asked the Court of Appeal at a hearing earlier this month to overturn a High Court ruling in May last year that she was not entitled to funding for an operation.

West Berkshire Primary Care Trust says surgery is not an essential part of GID treatment and there is no good evidence that it would be cost-effective or improve C's health status.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/4/20110311/tuk-transsexual-to-learn-breast-op-cash-dba1618.html

So how does getting bigger breasts solve the issue of this person being 'abused' and put an end to the name calling? I'm not suffering from some mental torment that makes me feel I'm a bloke in a woman's body so perhaps I'm unable to understand and comprehend the position he/she is in and as such I totally fail to see how having bigger breasts will in any way 'help' this person get through all of those issues.

I can see how a woman losing a breast to surgery due to cancer etc may well benefit from surgery to provide an artificial implant. But that woman had something that was taken away. This person hasn't 'lost' anything, they've simply not grown to a size they'd like. It could be argued (and probably is by a number of women), that there are women (born as a woman), who have breasts that have 'failed to develop to a size considered "appropriate" to her frame'. Indeed, there are probably plenty of blokes (born men), out there that feel their penis has 'failed to develop to a size considered "appropriate" to their frame'. Are we going to offer surgical 'enhancement' to anyone who feels a part of their anatomy isn't quite what they'd hoped for?

Perhaps I'm being narrow minded, perhaps I'm not seeing the bigger picture, but my opinion is that that money would be better spent on a breast implant operation for a woman who has LOST her breast or even an operation to save a life perhaps.

 

[joe-90]

Don't see the problem. By far the biggest drain on the NHS is the elderly who've had their lives. That is the biggest waste of money.

 

[Blasphemous]

Don't see the problem. By far the biggest drain on the NHS is the elderly who've had their lives. That is the biggest waste of money.

You don't see what problem Joe? This person having a breast op? With women having breast ops? With men having penis ops? With ANYONE having ANY op that they feel will enhance their life?

 

[wotan]

Don't see the problem. By far the biggest drain on the NHS is the elderly who've had their lives. That is the biggest waste of money.

At what age do you consider a life span to be?
do you advocate killing them off as soon as they need medical help?

Wotan

 

[Blasphemous]

I think we need to understand what it is that Joe doesn't see a problem with first wotan. It may well be that he doesn't have a problem with some of the areas I highlighted in my reply.

 

[Blasphemous]

OK, Joe isn't/can't respond so we'll have to assume.

The thing to remember here is that this person doesn’t NEED this operation. The operation will merely 'enhance' their life. So if we assume Joe doesn't see a problem with this person having money spent on them to ‘enhance’ their life, why shouldn’t the elderly have money spent on them to 'enhance' their lives? Oh I know, this person will be contributing to the economy....? That's if this person can get a job of course and IF they're able to work through their mental struggle.

 

[joe-90]

Fat people don't need operations, drunks don't need operations, smokers don't need operations - because they don't need to pig out, drink or smoke.

The original topic is a mental health problem. Some people demand their own limbs be cut off - and they get that operation too - even though the problem is in the person's head.

As far as the other thing goes - you don't spend huge money on an old dog, old car - or in my opinion old person.

It can't go on - the NHS is bankrupt.

 

[cumbriahandyman]

As far as the other thing goes - you don't spend huge money on an old dog, old car - or in my opinion old person.

It can't go on - the NHS is bankrupt.

People spend small fortunes on all three. I am quite happy to see money spent on reducing pain and suffering on the elderly.

So what you are suggesting, we leave the sick elderly to die in agony and starvation? No food no medicine no care?

 

[joe-90]

The girlfriends dad died on Sunday from prostate cancer. It would have been better for all concerned if he'd gone 3 months earlier. Dreadful illness. You wouldn't put your dog through it so why a human?

 

[gregers]

The girlfriends dad died on Sunday from prostate cancer. It would have been better for all concerned if he'd gone 3 months earlier. Dreadful illness. You wouldn't put your dog through it so why a human?

got to agree with you here joe,i lost my dad just before christmas,and watched him suffer,

this is where the debate on euthanasia starts to rear its head time again.

 

[Blasphemous]

Sorry to hear about both your loses lads.

As to:

this is where the debate on euthanasia starts to rear its head time again.

Errrr NO it ain't. If you want to debate euthanasia then do it in another thread. This is about some bloke who thinks he's a women and as such wants breasts. He's tried the drug route but that wasn't enough for him so now he wants surgery. Is the NHS going to shell out for his specially made shoes next because strangely he's unable to find any 'nice ones' in his size?

 

[gregers]

Sorry to hear about both your loses lads.

As to:

this is where the debate on euthanasia starts to rear its head time again.

Errrr NO it ain't. If you want to debate euthanasia then do it in another thread. This is about some bloke who thinks he's a women and as such wants breasts. He's tried the drug route but that wasn't enough for him so now he wants surgery. Is the NHS going to shell out for his specially made shoes next because strangely he's unable to find any 'nice ones' in his size?

er my quote was on what joe had posted,if it came accross as to start a debate on the subject,then I WOULDVE STARTED 1 IN ITS OWN THREAD.
that was not my intention.

you could aslo say that as this thread has mentioned smoking/drinking/drugs old age etc,then the whole thread has gone off track,but hey im not splitting hairs

as to this chap/ess wanting breasts he can have my moobs free of charge if he likes,

 

[LastMagicBean]

Another example of pure lunacy.

Potentially life saving drugs get withdrawn for being too expensive, and yet the courts may well find in favour of the NHS spending god knows how much, on this individual.

Kick his knicker clad backside out of the courtroom, reminding him that there are dying kids out there, that could do with the finance and resources that the NHS simply can't provide at the moment.

 

[joe-90]

You can get Viagra on the NHS too - is that essential?

 

[kevplumb]

You can get Viagra on the NHS too - is that essential?

only for the likes of you yer self centred twonk