Unvented D2 discharge pipe.

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Hi all,

I have a slightly odd question about D2 discharge pipes from an unvented cylinder.

Approved document G in table 3.1 gives all the pipe sizing for different lengths.

But then has these other statements which slightly contradict each other.

3.58 The discharge pipe D2 should be at least
one pipe size larger than the nominal outlet size
of the safety device unless its total equivalent
hydraulic resistance exceeds that of a straight
pipe 9m long, i.e. for discharge pipes between
9m and 18m the equivalent resistance length
should be at least two sizes larger than the
nominal outlet size of the safety device; between
18 and 27m at least 3 sizes larger, and so on;
bends must be taken into account in calculating
the flow resistance. See Diagram 1, Table 3.1 and
the worked example.


3.59 Where a single common discharge pipe
serves more than one system, it should be
at least one pipe size larger than the largest
individual discharge pipe (D2) to be connected.


3.59 makes it seem like you can step up the pipe size, from say a 22mm to 28mm when you hit your 9m limit by calling it a common discharge pipe. This would potentially save you in using expensive 28mm copper on the whole run of D2.

or perhaps..

If you were in a block of 4 flats and you didn't want to discharge into the soil stack over concerns about temperature ratings. You could effectively run 22mm pipe to a
"Single common discharge pipe" of 28mm which exited appropriately at ground level.

Both of these things would seem to comply with 3.59 but might somewhat contradict 3.58 which tells you how to upsize your pipe if its straight run is over 9m or 18m.

https://assets.publishing.service.g...207/BR_PDF_AD_G_2015_with_2016_amendments.pdf

Really interested in your thought on this.

This might just be some really clumsily written documentation

Cheers

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Each discharge must be calculated for its individual appliance, so if the discharge at the appliance is 22mm and the discharge route is 10m equivalent length then the whole discharge pipe must be increased to 28mm (18m>length>9m).
Thus if your 28mm discharge above were to be further connected into a 'common' discharge, that discharge would have to be one pipe size larger than the 28mm one, ie 35mm.
 
So if your discharge from the appliance was less than 9m (including bends) to the common discharge it would need to be piped in 22mm.

Then your "Common discharge" was say 9m to the ground, this would mean you would only need to size the "Common discharge" at 28mm to satisfy regs.

Cheers
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