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Are you aware of notification procedures to your LABC ?
Is the existing protection for the circuit adequate for the new socket and wiring?
Where are you spurring from?
Do you have the necessary test equipment?
the spur is from an existing socket, on a 32a fuse, not aware of notification procedures, I know the work should be checked by a professional afterwards, what test equipment would I need?
I have never done it before but I am a fast learner
I have never done it before but I am a fast learner
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In a kitchen (A place with food preparation surfaces) the cost of notifying under Part P (Around £110) is so high that unless part of a bigger project like building an extension it is cheaper to get a registered electrician to do the work than DIY.
If you don't like it complain to your MP we don't make the laws. Not that it will do any good didn't when I complained.
If you still want to DIY I will answer rest of questions but being realistic I don't really think worth your while.
There are things called extension leads I am told due to the number of accidents involving extension leads New Zealand repealed their version of Part P but they have a woman in charge.
If you don't like it complain to your MP we don't make the laws. Not that it will do any good didn't when I complained.
If you still want to DIY I will answer rest of questions but being realistic I don't really think worth your while.
There are things called extension leads I am told due to the number of accidents involving extension leads New Zealand repealed their version of Part P but they have a woman in charge.
Given you imply the socket is in the kitchen, this work is notifiable in advance to your LABC under Part P (see the wiki for details, basically you have to pay them a notification fee). They are then supposed to do whatever inspection and testing they deem necessary...
Assuming you have a standard ring final (I hope so given you say it's a 32A breaker), then if it is a spur for a double socket off an existing socket, 2.5mm T&E is almost certainly what you want (however, I can't say this for sure without knowing the route the cable is going to take etc).
Note that your new socket must be protected by an RCD under the 17th edition of the wiring regs, so if your existing circuit is not, you will need to ensure the new one is, either by installing RCD protection on the entire circuit, or perhaps installing an RCD protected socket. Also note that any cables buried at less than 50mm from the surface not in earthed metal conduit must be protected by an RCD, so you can't necessarily just install a protected socket.
Finally, given that LABCs normally charge over £100 as a notification fee, for a single spur like this, you may be better off just getting a competent person who can self certify in to do it - it'll probably cost you about the same overall, but you'll know you have a professional job done...
Assuming you have a standard ring final (I hope so given you say it's a 32A breaker), then if it is a spur for a double socket off an existing socket, 2.5mm T&E is almost certainly what you want (however, I can't say this for sure without knowing the route the cable is going to take etc).
Note that your new socket must be protected by an RCD under the 17th edition of the wiring regs, so if your existing circuit is not, you will need to ensure the new one is, either by installing RCD protection on the entire circuit, or perhaps installing an RCD protected socket. Also note that any cables buried at less than 50mm from the surface not in earthed metal conduit must be protected by an RCD, so you can't necessarily just install a protected socket.
Finally, given that LABCs normally charge over £100 as a notification fee, for a single spur like this, you may be better off just getting a competent person who can self certify in to do it - it'll probably cost you about the same overall, but you'll know you have a professional job done...
Assuming they are a member of an approved self certification scheme (i.e. check the spark/company is listed on www.competentperson.co.uk), then yes, you do not have to pay a notification fee, the spark will handle notifying the work themselves through their scheme...
If you get a Registered Electrician to do the work then the cost of the notification (IIRC Email £1.50?) should be covered in his rate
funny you should mention extension leads, my kitchen was riddled with the things, sometimes extensions plugged into extensions, or extended using brown packing tape in one case, I am fitting a new kitchen and wanted to avoid using extension cords as I know they are terrible things to have in kitchens as they often aren't rated to support kettles and toaster etc which draw a lot of power.
Now I think I can understand why they did it!
Now I think I can understand why they did it!
If you are having a new kitchen then now is the time to get the electrics properly sorted, e.g. a socket circuit just for the kitchen, no spurs, appliance sockets properly located with accessible switches, cooker circuit big enough for a range cooker, now or in the future, under-cabinet lighting, concealed wiring for the cooker hood etc etc etc...
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