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When 'are' we going to get tough on crime?

An apologist for rationality.
Yes, it's completely rational to support a general reduction in sentencing even for those committing more serious crimes.

Wait a sec, are you one of those 'solicitors' that offers their services to literally anyone and drives about in a Range Rover with gold rims and blacked out windows?
 
Otherwise known as duty solicitors, who are among the lowest paid in the industry.
 
Otherwise known as duty solicitors, who are among the lowest paid in the industry.

There's one in my local. Really decent bloke, but has to be out at all hours day or night dealing with scuzzers at police stations. In his late 50s, and unfotunately typical of many in the profession - alcoholic. Somebody's got to do it.
 
There's one in my local. Really decent bloke, but has to be out at all hours day or night dealing with scuzzers at police stations. In his late 50s, and unfotunately typical of many in the profession - alcoholic. Somebody's got to do it.
Knew one like him, from what I could gather he made a lot of money just from legal aid work, but liked a bevvy or two. Didn’t know him well but he was a character (I think now it’s called being a functioning alcoholic). His office was raided by the lawyers professional body and he was struck off for various “irregularities “.
 
Knew one like him, from what I could gather he made a lot of money just from legal aid work, but liked a bevvy or two. Didn’t know him well but he was a character (I think now it’s called being a functioning alcoholic). His office was raided by the lawyers professional body and he was struck off for various “irregularities “.

I get the idea the one I know works for a practice, so poss just salaried rather than coining it from legal aid. He has some very interesting tales to tell, especially when his tongue is slightly loosened with a few drinks. Sometimes he may give too many details.
 
It should be fair for criminal AND victim, but it APPEARS the fairness is weighted heavily on the side of criminals .
You need to be more specific on that for me to agree or disagree.

Personally the way that the right has been attacking the rule of law over the last decade or so has me concerned.
 
You need to be more specific on that for me to agree or disagree.
One thing that needs addressing is the refusal of defendants to go to court for their sentencing
Personally the way that the right has been attacking the rule of law over the last decade or so has me concerned.
Really? The way I, and many others see it is the other way around.
 
One thing that needs addressing is the refusal of defendants to go to court for their sentencing
Why? It doesn't matter much, slap on an extra contempt charge if you want but trying to force people to attend is a waste of time and money and is likely to backfire. That's why we don't do it. But it's a side show, it only applies to a tiny number of defendants and makes no difference to their sentence. If anything it saves time and money.
Really? The way I, and many others see it is the other way around.
The sun headline calling judges traitors when they determined that, by law, parliament must approve Brexit.

The failure of the then government to protect the judges. The incessant attacks on lawyers for doing their job defending people.
 
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