Where would you advise fitting an upstairs toilet ?

[Harry Bloomfield]

I would never install a toilet in a room witout a window, also pulled out of buying a house with no windows in toilerts.

An extract fan, takes care of that.

 

[Plrm6]

Where to put it?

Close to the soil pipe.

Avoid long pipe runs, especially if horizontal or small bore.

Avoid poo-mincers.

Your plan diagram suggests the house is quite old. Is the soil pipe iron or plastic? Does it run inside the house or bolted to the outside wall?

Where do the drains run? ( look for manhole covers)

It’s a Victorian terrace. The soil pipe is iron I believe and it runs from the back of the toilet out to the outside wall. I will look into the drains - but do like the idea of the toilet in the cupboard area of the bathroom in what needs to be bedroom 3 if tha could work with a soil pipe, maybe taking a little space from each of the bedrooms if possible/affordable

 

[JohnD]

It’s a Victorian terrace. The soil pipe is iron I believe and it runs from the back of the toilet out to the outside wall.

Isn't there a vertical vent pipe?

Typically runs up to eaves level.

In a Victorian terrace, the common sewer probably runs behind the terrace, and at the end, goes down to the road beside the end house, or to a back lane

So if you are end of terrace you could go out through the side wall.

Look for manholes.

It might be at the other end

 

[Mister Banks]

How about a small 2 storey extension to the side of the kitchen and upstairs bathroom. You can then have a larger kitchen and an upstairs shower room. You would need to make a corridor from the landing along the side of bedroom 2 to gain access. The cost of the extension would likely be less than the value increase of the house.

 

[Alec_t]

Could you just re-purpose the conservatory as a bedroom?

 

[cdbe]

I'd do cupboard/corner of master. Soil pipe can be run under ground floor ceiling and boxed in. The idea sounds preposterous but I've seen it and you barely notice it after a while - especially if you have reasonable height Victorian ceilings.

And you don't need much space for a usable WC - mine is 135cm x 87cm, including the 2 new stud walls.

 

[Plrm6]

I'd do cupboard/corner of master. Soil pipe can be run under ground floor ceiling and boxed in. The idea sounds preposterous but I've seen it and you barely notice it after a while - especially if you have reasonable height Victorian ceilings.

And you don't need much space for a usable WC - mine is 135cm x 87cm, including the 2 new stud walls.

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Thanks for your experience- is it ok to know the rough cost of this type of job?

 

[cdbe]

Sorry, I do it all myself. The ceiling mounted soil pipe is at my sister's bungalow - she had a vaguely similar issue to you - she'd had a loft conversion that gave her a big bathroom and a tiny 3rd bedroom which could fit a cot but not a child's bed (silly when she has a full bathroom downstairs) - she swapped the bedroom and bathroom and substituted a shower for the bath. The steelwork for the loft meant the only practical route for the relocated soil pipe was along the ground floor hallway.

I've got a terraced house where I moved the bathroom to the front, I was very lucky that all the joists ran front to back so was able to "hide" a 5m long soil pipe in the floor. If your master bedroom floor joists run left to right you could run a pipe between them, out through the right hand wall and round the outside of the house.

 

[JohnD]

out through the right hand wall and round the outside of the house.

Or possibly straight down if the common sewer runs past that side.

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

I will look into the drains

Spent too many years doing just that, from your sketch plan it looks like you have a Gully outside the Kitchen window, so there is a drain there. Depending on depth/position it may be suitable to be repurposed to take a soil stack serving the proposed new WC. Kitchen waste can then either go into the stack or a new Gully provided, connected in along with the new stack.