Who’s going to tell them that the answer is immigration?

[Odds]

Wasn't it the 'Led By Donkeys' crowd who did that?

Yes, it was.
They'll never top the stunt they pulled on Lizz Truss, though.

 

[Odds]

That's a complete mangling of cause and effect.

British young adults don't have kids mostly because they don't have a home. Many are living at home with their parents in their 40s. Life is about survival, not living. Throwing millions more people into the housing market massively worsens this desperate situation.

The birth rate has been dropping among advanced economies for a number of years: Japan, South Korea, America and the UK have all seen birth rates fall among the middle class as wealth inequality has forced younger people to remain at home for much longer than previous generations. They can't afford to move out as even renting a flat has become prohibitively expensive - let alone buying a house.

Plus the country is becoming the sort of third world hell-hole that sane people don't want to subject their potential kids to.

Birth rates have remained consistently high in the 3rd world countries where children have to emigrate in order to find a better lifestyle - if Globalism had been allowed to flourish who knows what benefits would've been available to them otherwise.

Uncontrolled, unskilled immigration is causing a decline in the birth rate.

Nonsense.

 

[fillyboy]

The birth rate has been dropping among advanced economies for a number of years: Japan, South Korea, America and the UK have all seen birth rates fall among the middle class as wealth inequality has forced younger people to remain at home for much longer than previous generations. They can't afford to move out as even renting a flat has become prohibitively expensive - let alone buying a house.



Birth rates have remained consistently high in the 3rd world countries where children have to emigrate in order to find a better lifestyle - if Globalism had been allowed to flourish who knows what benefits would've been available to them otherwise.


Nonsense.

In advanced economies the highest birth rate is probably Israel standing at around 3.0, they also have a comparative high rate of women participating in the workplace, also ranks as one of the 'happiest' and 'family orientated' countries.

Despite war and hardships, Israelis are having more children | The Jerusalem Post

134,000 births Compared to 131,000 in 2023. Despite war and hardships, Israelis are choosing to expand their families, contrary to trends in the West.

www.jpost.com

 

[ellal]

In advanced economies the highest birth rate is probably Israel standing at around 3.0, they also have a comparative high rate of women participating in the workplace, also ranks as one of the 'happiest' and 'family orientated' countries.

Well they have to keep the IDF well stocked...

Which is also a 'workplace' for women...

Ask the Palestinians who live (for the moment) in apartheid israel whether it is "one of the 'happiest' and 'family orientated' countries"

 

[noseall]

Wasn't it the 'Led By Donkeys' crowd who did that?

Very short memories the RWR.

 

[Vinty]

In advanced economies the highest birth rate is probably Israel standing at around 3.0, they also have a comparative high rate of women participating in the workplace, also ranks as one of the 'happiest' and 'family orientated' countries.

Despite war and hardships, Israelis are having more children | The Jerusalem Post

134,000 births Compared to 131,000 in 2023. Despite war and hardships, Israelis are choosing to expand their families, contrary to trends in the West.

www.jpost.com

Just goes to show what lots of money can do.

 

[Vinty]

The birth rate has been dropping among advanced economies for a number of years: Japan, South Korea, America and the UK have all seen birth rates fall among the middle class as wealth inequality has forced younger people to remain at home for much longer than previous generations. They can't afford to move out as even renting a flat has become prohibitively expensive - let alone buying a house.



Birth rates have remained consistently high in the 3rd world countries where children have to emigrate in order to find a better lifestyle - if Globalism had been allowed to flourish who knows what benefits would've been available to them otherwise.


Nonsense.

Raising children properly costs a lot of money.
Women have made a choice that they would have more money than have children .
Modern couples want lots of shiny stuff and foreign holidays, it gives the impression of affluence.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

This thread stayed on-topic for exactly 11 posts, followed by 41 posts on a completely different subject.

 

[Odds]

Raising children properly costs a lot of money.
Women have made a choice that they would have more money than have children .
Modern couples want lots of shiny stuff and foreign holidays, it gives the impression of affluence.

Moneysupermarket analysed the latest Office for National Statistics (ONS) data and surveyed the UK’s parents to reveal how childcare and schooling choices shape the cost of raising a child.

• Upper cost: £500,982 per child. Based on full-time nursery costs, private school tuition, afterschool care and holidays
• Mid-cost: £194,246 per child. Based on part-time nursery costs, state school education, afterschool care and holidays
• Lower cost: £143,412 per child. Based on no pre-school childcare, state school education, no afterschool care and no holidays

For families using full time childcare and private schooling, raising a child can cost over £500,000. Even where parents use state education and no formal childcare, the total still reaches more than £143,000.

Nothing to do with migration, but it helps explain why so many cannot afford to do the low paid jobs filled by migrants (illegal or not) or reach up to the ever higher first rung of the housing ladder.

On the other hand; it has everything to do with migration: the lopshided nature of the Global economy has hidden consequences that aren't easily discerned without a broader look at the causes of economic reasons for people taking risks to come here. Reasons conveniently ignored by Fartrage and his mob.

 

[Vinty]

Moneysupermarket analysed the latest Office for National Statistics (ONS) data and surveyed the UK’s parents to reveal how childcare and schooling choices shape the cost of raising a child.

• Upper cost: £500,982 per child. Based on full-time nursery costs, private school tuition, afterschool care and holidays
• Mid-cost: £194,246 per child. Based on part-time nursery costs, state school education, afterschool care and holidays
• Lower cost: £143,412 per child. Based on no pre-school childcare, state school education, no afterschool care and no holidays

For families using full time childcare and private schooling, raising a child can cost over £500,000. Even where parents use state education and no formal childcare, the total still reaches more than £143,000.

Nothing to do with migration, but it helps explain why so many cannot afford to do the low paid jobs filled by migrants (illegal or not) or reach up to the ever higher first rung of the housing ladder.

On the other hand; it has everything to do with migration: the lopshided nature of the Global economy has hidden consequences that aren't easily discerned without a broader look at the causes of economic reasons for people taking risks to come here. Reasons conveniently ignored by Fartrage and his mob.

It's like baking a cake, why go to all the trouble of making one when you can get one ready made.
Human Labour is just a commodity, it is bought and sold,that's why the Tories were so fond of mass immigration.
They imported cheap workers because indigenous workers wanted more money in return for their labour.
This why Nigel Farage won't go for mass remigration, he will make all sorts of promises to his working class supporters but he won't keep them, because his rich donors and the markets don't want it.

 

[Vinty]

Maybe Britain should become Roman Catholic again to solve the birthrate crisis.

Take a look at this video, 'Monty Python Catholic vs Protestant' https://share.google/1tu4dFhRYmywBMDhE