Who’s going to tell them that the answer is immigration?

[diy_fun_uk]

But they all vote as they have nothing better to do

To be fair, even younger generations who work and lead busy lives have time to vote. It's hardly something that takes hours to complete.

 

[King Billy]

They basically sold their own children as slaves for their own benefit.

Well we could charge them with slave trading.

 

[Mottie]

The 'new' state pension is £221 per week, providing you have made the correct number of years paying into it. If you haven’t, you will get 'pension credit' that will top up whatever you are getting to £238 per week. Pension credit is a gateway benefit so often, those on it will qualify for other benefits. It does make you wonder why people bother to provide for themselves in older age, doesn’t it?

 

[King Billy]

The 'new' state pension is £221 per week, providing you have made the correct number of years paying into it. If you haven’t, you will get 'pension credit' that will top up whatever you are getting to £238 per week. Pension credit is a gateway benefit so often, those on it will qualify for other benefits. It does make you wonder why people bother to provide for themselves in older age, doesn’t it?

If you can live on £884 per month, go for it.

 

[Mottie]

If you can live on £884 per month, go for it.

My point was, those that have not paid into the system, get far more than those that have.

 

[King Billy]

My point was, those that have not paid into the system, get far more than those that have.

Who will look after those that you don't want to support?

 

[SPLINE]

Immigration was key to this plan as they worked for low wages and helped build Britain back on its feet.

Immigrants were only a tiny part of the post-war work force Odds, as well you know. Only in the Blair years did they come in significant numbers.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

If you can live on £884 per month, go for it.

Quite doable if you own your house outright, bought a decent car before retiring and have a few £10,000s in the bank to cope with exceptional events.

All very achievable for those who are currently middle-aged at least - buying is more difficult for younger people in most of the country. I don't know how those who rent go on - does the govt pay their rent for them? If so then also not a problem.

All of course assuming you're not expecting to live a life of luxury while doing nothing of use to anyone else all day.

 

[Mottie]

Who will look after those that you don't want to support?

You’re deliberately not understanding my point, aren't you?

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

You’re deliberately not understanding my point, aren't you?

I don't think he needs to try very hard when it comes to not understanding things.

 

[King Billy]

You’re deliberately not understanding my point, aren't you?

Perhaps you'd like to explain your point.

... It does make you wonder why people bother to provide for themselves in older age, doesn’t it?

 

[King Billy]

Quite doable if you own your house outright, bought a decent car before retiring and have a few £10,000s in the bank to cope with exceptional events.

All very achievable for those who are currently middle-aged at least - buying is more difficult for younger people in most of the country. I don't know how those who rent go on - does the govt pay their rent for them? If so then also not a problem.

All of course assuming you're not expecting to live a life of luxury while doing nothing of use to anyone else all day.

Doable if............
About 16% of pensioners rely solely on their state pension.
And about 11% have no savings.

 

[Mottie]

Perhaps you'd like to explain your point.

FFS. Are you hard of understanding?

Pay in the required amount of contributions through NI and that gets you a State pension of £221 per week.
Pay in F all and get a state pension of £0 that will be topped up to £238 per week by pension credit plus that makes you eligible for other benefits not available to those that paid in all their life.

Do you think that’s fair?

I wish I’d never paid in under those circs.

 

[King Billy]

Immigrants were only a tiny part of the post-war work force Odds, as well you know. Only in the Blair years did they come in significant numbers.

It's complex.
Many British citizens were emigrating to places like Australia, NZ and Canada.
Also there were few if any students coming to UK for study.

 

[King Billy]

Do you think that’s fair?

Is that your point, asking me if I think it's fair?
You provided the information, why not give us your opinion?
And explain who will look after those denied an income, if you stop the pension credit.