Who doesn't like a coup?

[motorbiking]

Anybody with common sense and is actually awake knows the Reform party is just the Tory party 2.0

Reform is stuffed full of ex Tory members, ex Tory candidates, ex Tory Mps

Nigel Farage is a public school establishment rich boy
Tice is a public school establishment rich boy
Lee Anderson is a Tory grifter
Andrea Leadsom is a Tory grifter
Nadine Dorries is a fick Tory grifter

Reform are the Tories only even more corrupt and clueless

Based on your post. It’s clear who is a fick grifter.

 

[Notch7]

Orchestrated by unions get their soft mates in.

thats a lie....fek all to do with unions

1) NHS junior Drs -Tories had already agreed virtually same deal
2) public sector pay rises - that was agreed by the independent review body and it was effectively lower than inflation adjustment

depends if jobs are increased. The increase in NI under labour has certainly impacted jobs

thats bolox

Jeremy Hunt lied - he "balanced the books" by making bogus cuts to public services knowing that Labour woul dhave to pick up the tab

could always lock fewer people up. So many people get prison instead of alternatives.

such as?

not locking people up costs money as well

Covid crisis backlog

more Motorbiking lies

there was a 5 million NHS waiting list backlog before covid started and was rising

more coming now under labour

exaggeration

wrong look up RAAC

got worse under labour

hardly

99% of the gdp to debt increase was 2010 to 2024

got worse under labour

yeah because of Truss budget that spooked the markets and increase bond interest rates

more coming now under labou

that another lie

the numbers coming are lower than Tories 2022 numbers -anddont claim Tories were getting it down because Sunak dropped his "stop the boats" as knew he wasnt

Asylum hotels over 400 under Tories

processing up with Labour govt
deportations up with Labour govt
net migration down during Labour govt in power


poor Motorgrifting wrong on literally everything

 

[Notch7]

Based on your post. It’s clear who is a fick grifter.

yes it is clear: Nigel Farage is a grifter

 

[Notch7]

Hopefully they're the Tory Party 1.0, i.e. before Cameron, May, Boris etc. Give the country the bitter medicine it desperately needs, Thatcher style. Cut everything while the piggies squeal.

yeah the Tories that led to the problems we have now

Thatcher style one in ten unemployed for over 4 years

 

[motorbiking]

yes it is clear: Nigel Farage is a grifter

using your definition of grifter,

thats a lie....fek all to do with unions

1) NHS junior Drs -Tories had already agreed virtually same deal
2) public sector pay rises - that was agreed by the independent review body and it was effectively lower than inflation adjustment


thats bolox

Jeremy Hunt lied - he "balanced the books" by making bogus cuts to public services knowing that Labour woul dhave to pick up the tab


such as?

not locking people up costs money as well



more Motorbiking lies

there was a 5 million NHS waiting list backlog before covid started and was rising

and now its 7+ million

wrong look up RAAC

Irrelevant

hardly

99% of the gdp to debt increase was 2010 to 2024

and now its even more

yeah because of Truss budget that spooked the markets and increase bond interest rates

and what happened after.

that another lie

the numbers coming are lower than Tories 2022 numbers -anddont claim Tories were getting it down because Sunak dropped his "stop the boats" as knew he wasnt

swerve - you know that we have had an increase under labour. More this year than the whole of last year already.

Asylum hotels over 400 under Tories

most of the reductions came under the Tories

processing up with Labour govt

Approved, Approved, Approved - not really the result we want

deportations up with Labour govt

people going home by themselves you mean

net migration down during Labour govt in power

wealthy people leaving is not really the goal

poor Motorgrifting wrong on literally everything

NotchyFacts™

By your own definition you are a dishonest lying grifter, who's also fick.

 

[Notch7]

and now its 7+ million

it was a major problem BEFORE covid

so stop trying to use covid as an excuse for Tory failure to hide behind

and now its even more

Motorbiking agrees the Tories are responsible for the vast majority of the UK 100% debt to gdp

and what happened after

Tories made it worse

swerve - you know that we have had an increase under labour. More this year than the whole of last year already.

lower than Tories max

most of the reductions came under the Tories

the 400+ asylum hotels were entirely under the Tories

obviously you refuse to take responsibility for that

wealthy people leaving is not really the goal

very few wealthy people have left -dont bother posting the bolox "report" from a wealth management company -it was made up from linked in profiles

people going home by themselves you mean

why didnt they do that under Tories then??

Approved, Approved, Approved - not really the result we want

thats a lie given deportations are UP

By your own definition you are a dishonest lying grifter, who's also fick.

oh dear angry Motorgriftin is angry

 

[transam]

Well the way I see it

Starmer is a decent enough bloke in his own right but seems to be dogged by events most of his own making

I don’t believe any PM we have had in my lifetime have genuinely set out to F up peoples lives

They may end up doing so but it’s not deliberate ???

Mistakes / incompetence / events beyond there control etc etc

 

[SPLINE]

I think we need a general election rather than a change of PM

No we don't, there is nobody decent to vote for. We need a friendly invasion by Trump's forces; wartime powers and the expulsion of about 10 million foreigners.

Starmer is a decent enough blbloke

No he isn't, he is a communist.

 

[blup]

Wes Streeting denies he likes a coup, regardless, the bond markets won't like it so Govt borrowing costs will increase tomorrow. Looks like the budget could get even worse than we feared.

Wow.

Is it really a coup, or a giant distraction from the panaroma case?

 

[blup]

Getting shut of Starmer and replacing him with another clown is not the answer.

Not a nice way to describe Nige

 

[Brigadier]

The thing is, I read threads like this and I genuinely think what is the answer?

Simple.

Shoot the tribal voters.

Or bring in PR.

 

[Highway Man]

Not a nice way to describe Nige

In the event of a general election, who would you bet on winning it?

 

[blup]

In the event of a general election, who would you bet on winning it?

No overall majority. Not Nige, he is strong on sound bites but weak on policy. When he announced the detail of re forms plans the other day, he came across as just another autocue reading torey politician. I think the Greens will do very well with the younger voters, and with the lefty labour voters who are fed up with Kieth. The toreys will take a beating. I don’t see Nige winning a majority in 2029 either. If you pursue marmite politics there comes a point when you can’t get win any more votes and I think his peak will be next Mays elections. That’s three years before the next GE. Re form supporters are living in a bubble of self belief, just like the metropolitan liberal elite they claim to despise.

 

[Murdochcat]

The outcome of the next GE will be a hung parliament

 

[Notch7]

In the event of a general election, who would you bet on winning it?

Reform at the moment, because this country is full of idiots

just because Reform are ahead in the polls does not make them the best party to run the country....in fact they would be the worst

in 2029 -probably not Reform