the free movement of people could be classed as 'uncontrolled'
by a person who deliberately misrepresented the terms of the EU "Freedom of Movement" policy. You, for example.
It is not uncontrolled.
why is loss of freedom of movement in eu seen as a big deal
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by a person who deliberately misrepresented the terms of the EU "Freedom of Movement" policy. You, for example.
It is not uncontrolled.
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Well, I suppose it is, only because the government do not operate the policy that they formulate.by a person who deliberately misrepresented the terms of the EU "Freedom of Movement" policy. You, for example.the free movement of people could be classed as 'uncontrolled'
It is not uncontrolled.
So do we have uncontrolled immigration? Yes we do.
Is that the policy? No it is not.
Why then do we have uncontrolled immigration?
Because the government do not do what they said they would do, and are allowed to do under EU regulations.
And funnily enough that policy won't change much overall after Brexit - because Governments follow their financial puppet masters demands!
Capitalism requires growth, and in countries like the UK (which has few resources) the only way to achieve growth is internally.
Thus an increase in population is required to increase consumption/turnover.
And ironically although freedom of movement from the EU will be reduced/curtailed, there will be a new wave of immigration from countries whose people have predominantly the skin colours that got many leavers 'confused'/up in arms about in the first place
Correct., there will be a new wave of immigration from countries whose people have predominantly the skin colours that got many leavers 'confused'/up in arms about in the first place
And the likes of Roger the Racist will spontaneously explode.
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Why will that happen? Will not leaving the EU just mean that the EU countries will just be on the same playing level as any other country in the world who wants to come and live in the UK?And ironically although freedom of movement from the EU will be reduced/curtailed, there will be a new wave of immigration from countries whose people have predominantly the skin colours that got many leavers 'confused'/up in arms about in the first place
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Nope because the deal will involve settlement rights for those already here and those still interested in arriving or those that have left on considering returning.
Not all bad, then
Regardless of what happens to freedom of movement with the EU, immigrants are required for the reasons given.
Thus trade deals done with Asian/African/South American countries etc will include an element of free movement of other peoples.
So it's 'pożegnanie polski hydraulik' and 'svaagat bhaarateey plambar'*
* other nationalities will be available.
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Regardless of what happens to freedom of movement with the EU, immigrants are required for the reasons given.
Thus trade deals done with Asian/African/South American countries etc will include an element of free movement of other peoples.
So it's 'pożegnanie polski hydraulik' and 'svaagat bhaarateey plambar'*
* other nationalities will be available.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/883571/Brexit-Britain-India-immigrants-free-trade-diplomat-Sinha
BRITAIN has to accept greater levels of immigration from India if it wants to sign a free trade deal with the country, a senior Indian diplomat has said.
But guess what - they are not in a rush to sign a trade deal.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...in-ambassador-yashvardhan-sinha-a8292091.html
India is not in a “rush” to conclude a trade deal with the UK after Brexit, the country’s chief ambassador to the UK has said.
Yashvardhan Sinha, India’s high commissioner to Britain, said that such a deal was “not going to be done overnight”.
What a shambles.
Furthermore: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...e-secretary-cabinet-theresa-may-a8277256.html
"The cabinet has yet to discuss any proposals to curb immigration after Brexit despite the looming start of talks with the EU, the Home Secretary has admitted."
Leavers really didn't understand the reality of their petulant referendum 'foot stamping' did they!
Although they are responsible (whether they like it or not) for wrecking the plans and hopes of millions of families - for no gain whatsoever!
"The cabinet has yet to discuss any proposals to curb immigration after Brexit despite the looming start of talks with the EU, the Home Secretary has admitted."
Leavers really didn't understand the reality of their petulant referendum 'foot stamping' did they!
Although they are responsible (whether they like it or not) for wrecking the plans and hopes of millions of families - for no gain whatsoever!
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To be a bit fairer, not all people who voted leave did so with good knowledge of what was going to happen and I don't think all those millions 'stamped their feet' just because of the nationality of someone or the colour of their skin.
Oh.... If only the information had been researched and given BEFORE the referendum instead of the rubbish that was spouted from both sides of the argument.
Exactly. NO ONE knew or knows what was or is going to happen, so I don't think fairness comes into it.
They certainly did as far as nationality is concerned.
They don't want foreigners having a say in British matters - for good or bad.
True, so they decided voting for a leap into the unknown was a good choice.
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Totally agree with you s.t.f.f. I believe nursing should never have become the degree course it now is. Should have become something along the lines of the NVQ system and they should never have taken away the bursary. Our hospital is now almost on constant Full Capacity Plan. I'm not sure about the lack of social care however. I find a lot of nursing homes are now refusing to accept anyone suffering with dementia, even though they are clearly advertised as accepting dementia patients. Perhaps Social Services should be questioning the owners motives in not accepting these patients ?
The information was available, but it appears the ability to 'research' it was lacking amongst certain demographics!
Because buses and posters covered with lies were deemed more effective voting tools by Cambridge Analytica and their paymasters than the facts
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Was it available? I didn't see any 'real' information, just a lot of guesswork as to what may happen. And in all honesty, who has the time to research every single thing that came out of the mouths of politicians and all those so-called experts? That would've been a full-time job in itself as well as a lot of overtime! I do think you're being unfair on people again. It surely was the job of those campaigning to deal the truth and not turn the whole sorry affair into something akin to American politics. It was an absolute farce and I wish people would remember to share the blame the people who made a mess of the whole thing from the start - the bloody politicians and Farage.The information was available, but it appears the ability to 'research' it was lacking amongst certain demographics!
Because buses and posters covered with lies were deemed more effective voting tools by Cambridge Analytica and their paymasters than the facts
1/The government shouldn't have run the referendum until it was ready to do so.
2/Point taken but that's not what I meant. There seems to be a few people out there that think that all those millions who voted leave did so on the back of racism. I think there are other reasons why people voted to leave and not all racist.
3/ Perhaps then they shouldn't have held a referendum at the same time as the country was going through harsh austerity cuts and job losses. People take risks when they've nothing left to lose.
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