Working outside toilet - DIY Newbie looking for guidance for painting.

[blup]

Ah the good old days of the frozen outside bog and torn off sheets of the daily mirror.

Blup

 

[cdbe]

I installed a capped off soil pipe under the slab of my rear extension, it terminates in the corner of my patio, if I ever get round to it I plan to build a small garden building to store furniture, BBQ etc and will incorporate a small toilet to save traipsing through the house when having garden parties.

If I were you, I'd isolate the electrics and get my pressure washer on that to prepare it for a few coats of masonry paint.

 

[opps]

We had a stop cock put in on the water pipe

If your male guests were to use it in the winter, there may well be a stop cock scenario

 

[HERTS P&D]

When it’s raining and freezing cold I generally entertain indoors. Cheers for the advice though.

And expect your friends to go outside or are they allowed to use the upstairs toilet?

Andy

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

And expect your friends to go outside or are they allowed to use the upstairs toilet?

Andy

What is your obsession here, are you just trolling? It's a bog for his mates or kids to use on a sunny day to avoid having to go indoors it's not brain surgery.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

It will be very prone to freezing in a hard winter. You can put a pipe heater with a thermostat in it, but it looks like the door will be very draughty so cold air will blow in. You can lag the pipes but all that does is slow the heat loss. The roof is probably also uninsulated. You should add an indoor stopcock so you can turn off the water, preferably before it freezes, but you will need it after a burst.

You softy! The cold makes it certain that you'll not stay long in there and block the loo for others... My gran's house always had hessian sackcloth lagging around the pipework

You will need a light in there if it does not already have one.

You take a storm lantern down the yard with you when you make a visit, obviously.

The walls look to me like oil paint and distemper, paint might not stick to it well.

Distemper is exactly what my gran used on her loo. When it started to become a bit "gnarly" she used to scrape the flakes off with a steel wire brush, the type with a metal scraper on the end then recoat the walls. Distemper is a breathable finish, so unlike modern paints it doesn't seem to sweat when you use it on solid brick walls outdoors. It used to come from the ironmongers in a paper bag and you mixed it with water then slapped it on with a distemper brush (like a bi paste brush). The cistern used to get painted every so often with gloss paint, with the lettering would be picked out in gold paint. I only know this because I was the brush hand doing this on one occasion.

Ah the good old days of the frozen outside bog and torn off sheets of the daily mirror.

Or Izal... Absolute murder for the wrath of grapes!

 

[nettles20]

And expect your friends to go outside or are they allowed to use the upstairs toilet?

AndySer

You softy! The cold makes it certain that you'll not stay long in there and block the loo for others... My gran's house always had hessian sackcloth lagging around the pipework


You take a storm lantern down the yard with you when you make a visit, obviously.


Distemper is exactly what my gran used on her loo. When it started to become a bit "gnarly" she used to scrape the flakes off with a steel wire brush, the type with a metal scraper on the end then recoat the walls. Distemper is a breathable finish, so unlike modern paints it doesn't seem to sweat when you use it on solid brick walls outdoors. It used to come from the ironmongers in a paper bag and you mixed it with water then slapped it on with a distemper brush (like a bi paste brush). The cistern used to get painted every so often with gloss paint, with the lettering would be picked out in gold paint. I only know this because I was the brush hand doing this on one occasion.


Or Izal... Absolute murder for the wrath of grapes!

I love the gold paintwork idea on the cistern. Thanks to you and others for raising distemper paint. This is not something I’d heard of so I’m intrigued. That seems to explain why the older layers seem to have an organic feel to them.

 

[HERTS P&D]

What is your obsession here, are you just trolling? It's a bog for his mates or kids to use on a sunny day to avoid having to go indoors it's not brain surgery.

A toilet with no basin to wash your hands, only a garden tap! Good luck with any ladies being happy with this situation.

Not trolling, just stating the obvious.

Andy

 

[Deleted member 174758]

I love the gold paintwork idea on the cistern. Thanks to you and others for raising distemper paint. This is not something I’d heard of so I’m intrigued. That seems to explain why the older layers seem to have an organic feel to them.

Distemper is similar to whitewash and was commonly sold by ironmongers, at least in my part of the world in the 70s and 80s. I had a great aunt who had an outside lavvy, but hers was painted with some sort of glossy paint. It always seemed damp in there, which I always put down to the type of paint

 

[nettles20]

Distemper is similar to whitewash and was commonly sold by ironmongers, at least in my part of the world in the 70s and 80s. I had a great aunt who had an outside lavvy, but hers was painted with some wort of glossy paint. It always seemed damp in there, which I always put down to the type of paint

I grew up with houses that all had outdoor toilets until I moved into a city and our holiday cottage was so remote it just had a long drop. They were all wooden structures however so didn’t feel damp so much as they might just blow away (this was in New Zealand). I might look into distemper - I see Farrow and Ball have a range of distemper paints!

 

[SFK]

Had many houses with outside toilet, including one in Wimbledon in 1998 where the dodgy terrace house to flat conversion meant the only toilet was the outside toilet (always wondered how much that flat is worth now!)

I have not seen actual 'cheap' off the shelf distemper paint for sale (and my quick Google search seems to agree with thate except from some specialist companies).

There is otherwise cheap masonry paint

or there is anti fungal emulsion that you can use:. https://www.kingfisheruk.com/anti-mould-paint-fungicidal-paint-item-52W#52m

SFK

 

[Deleted member 174758]

I see Farrow and Ball have a range of distemper paints!

Yes indeed. I've seen the prices, too! And to think distemper was always the cheap option - the upper classes only used to put it on the stable walls and in the servants quarters!

 

[SFK]

I could be wrong but I thought the farrow and ball paint was simply 'distemper coloured' normal-ish paint (it is breathable).

Google suggests that this seems to be the real (and also quite expensive) stuff:

Paint Types | Paints for Historic Buildings - Rose of Jericho

We manufacture a range of limewashes & distempers all suitable for use in traditional and historic buildings as well as paints suitable for modern surfaces.

roseofjericho.co.uk

Sfk

 

[JohnD]

For certain purposes, I used to apply distemper (and scrub it off with hot water as it does not dissolve in cold).

We bought bags of glue size, which looked like yellow crystals, sacks of whiting (which I think was ground chalk or hydrated lime) and bags of ground colour (possibly similar to poster paint).

Due to the whiting, it came out in pastel colours unless you mixed a lot of the colour in.

Mixed up in a bucket with boiling water to dissolve the glue, and stirred with a stick.

Horrible stuff with a nasty smell.

Was not at all expensive.

 

[Deleted member 174758]

Here is a packaged distemper paint being advertised on eBay. I kid you not, but there was one ironmongert in town where they had the stuff in barrels and you bought it loose, measured out on the scales in a bag. I can't believe what they want for it. Even so, it's a lot cheaper than Farrow & Bali (£70 a can), and for the real deal, too