Yet another localised breakout but hey, let’s not say anything....
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Yeah. A lot of people don’t like football.I get you.
In the one instance, it was a footballer's funeral. In the other, it wasn't.
That explains it.
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Sorry but that's a common factor in both cases, a lot of people don't like Muslims.
There's Islamophobia, but I've never heard of footballophobia.
Maybe there's a subtle difference, your comment, and the two possible meanings.
"A lot of people don't like football", i.e. are actively hating of football.
Or "A lot of people don't like football" i.e. a lot of people are ambivalent towards football.
Islamophobia definitely means a lot of people are actively hating of Muslims.
Maybe that explains the different approaches to the two incidents.
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The same peole who were intelligent enough to decide on the complex issue of Brexit are not too stupid to follow simple rules.
Shrodingers Citizen - both intelligent and stupid at the same time.
The common element in both Brexit and the curent farcial response is that the Government has let the public down.
Shrodingers Citizen - both intelligent and stupid at the same time.
The common element in both Brexit and the curent farcial response is that the Government has let the public down.
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Are you falsely assuming that people who hate football automatically hate all football fans?Sorry but that's a common factor in both cases, a lot of people don't like Muslims.
There's Islamophobia, but I've never heard of footballophobia.
Does it?
Can one not hate a religion - or all religions - without hating the people?
These words are bandied about willy-nilly so that people don't really know what they are supposed to mean.
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No, but it's eminently possible that people who dislike football do so because of the football fans.
I said:
Do you want my opinion, or a dictionary definition?
Yes, of course, but it wouldn't be Islamophobia.
It might be religionophobia.
Do you mean that the words are used intentionally to disguise their meaning?
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Bizzare conclusion...I dislike footy and F1 because they bore the tìts off me..Nothing to do with who likes them.
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But you must accept that it is the behaviour of some of the fans that turn some people away from some sports, events, etc.?
So it is not actually the football that they dislike.
I will for this discussion accept the (semantically incorrect) general usage of 'phobia'.
Ok, but that religionophobia must include islamophobia.Yes, of course, but it wouldn't be Islamophobia.
It might be religionophobia.
Not to disguise, as such, but I would think the words are (mis)used intentionally to confuse people because when words are misused it is unclear what is actually meant.
Either that or it is the case that people of influence in the media are not actually intelligent enough to know what the words mean nor, therefore, do their job properly.
Take the example of Jeffrey Epstein; it is commonplace by reporters for his name to be preceded by "the paedophile" even though he was not accused nor charged with that crime.
Is this because the speaker does not know what 'paedophile' actually means or are they just being sensationalist for some reason with the intention of confusing and winding-up the people?
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""""""In 2005, police in Palm Beach, Florida, began investigating Epstein after a parent complained that he had sexually abused her 14-year-old daughter.[7] Epstein pleaded guilty and was convicted in 2008 by a Florida state court of procuring an underage girl for prostitution and of soliciting a prostitute.[8] He served almost 13 months in custody, but with extensive work release"""":Splitting hairs again Tefal.Whether 13 or 14..still underage.
That confirms what I wrote. Thank you.
Paedophilia does not mean under age.
Paedophilia does not mean under age.
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No it means under 13.....not 14.....but I have no problem with The labelling of Epstein.Paedo should be under 16.
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Off again spitting hairs as is your obsession...You can probably never grasp Gay means anything other than jolly.Language evolves.
No it doesn't. It means an attraction to pre-pubescent children.
There is no argument. If you disagree; you are wrong.
No, I accept that. Not splitting hairs; two totally separate hairs.
Does it stand for as Good As You or is that a myth?
I could call you gay for going out with woman. Would you split hairs about it?
Totally irrelevant though.
Only because of misuse due to ignorance becoming so common place.
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