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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by gasbanni, 12 Sep 2020.

  1. ReganAndCarter

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  3. festive

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    Hey Galahad you know me too well ;) despite my close work with people i seem to be impervious to the pesky strain that's if it really does exist as a world epidemic.

    BLM is just another way to divide and conquer, it brings nothing but racism. Lewis Hamilton last week going on about the police and that young lady who was sadly killed in the cross fire between a known drug dealer and the police, not to mention the fact she's hanging out with drug dealers one who sleeps with his gun at his side, the moment the police banged the door down he shot one and they retaliated.
    Lewis obviously hasn't been a father, my post anger would be 'why didn't i stop her somehow dating such danger.' You dont ever shoot at Police and if you shoot at a kicked down door you've already knowingly committed to a duel with 'kill or be killed.'
    You bet Hamilton will race at tracks where Human rights are at an all time low, Bahrain for example they're now executing anyone that wants to protest despite how peaceful it is. Imagine them protestors being black...

    The rest of the F1 fraternity attempt the right message 'we race as one' no he's not having it. You try plonkin a white guy there demanding anything... they have the world already right?

    How about that poor PC Harper dragged to his death couple of kids laugh about it and get a sentence they will no doubt appeal over too. What about the police shot at point blank in retaliation over recent highlighted incidents no doubt fuelled and twisted from people like the F1 champ spouting stuff he is frustrated over.

    What about 'Diversity' and their new dance, talk about a lunge for ratings as they certainly were on the rocks. - Did you see the whole footage of that tragic death he was confused shouting 'i can't breath' before he was on the ground. He was intoxicated with a well known pain kill which has killed many others, one symptom is asphyxiation unable to breath.

    What about that 'poor' black Policeman on Sky news yesterday spent his entire life suffering racism struggling in the ranks sounded really tough no wait he retired as a Police Superintendent and the whole time talking about how he can relate to all those people out there 'like him' in his book, he sat there, very well turned out with his new paperback release facing the camera at every opportunity.. call me a cynic but there's many out there riding off this. He clearly HAS done well in life. I bet the fatty the baldy the ginga and all the other peeps ridiculed from time to time in any institution for their ailments didn't do so well ;)

    Its the new wave since 'me too' and LGTBTSC+- etc the new trend right on, except this will just drive more division. Soon im sure the likes of Starbucks will not only have a rainbow but a BLM logo on their cups too as all the woke companies jump on board to do the right thing ;)

    Studying these oppressed under privileged rich wealthy guys i've discovered the answer though so i thank them. Im off to beat up my white colleagues by cloaking them in the shroud of 'ignorant oppressor' while wearing the shroud of 'victim'. Ill soon be promoted.

    There you go that's the end of my xenophobic rant. Back to how i like my coffee :p
     
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  4. Notch7

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    Racism is pervasive and unpleasant, it's easy to criticise those trying to do something about it.

    BLM as a movement have been rather ruined by some of its cult following, but the core message still counts.

    We know racism exists in society, there is a level of unequal treatment.
    It seems like you are saying: "I don't want that changed, let's keep the status quo".....I am sure you aren't saying that, I'm sure you aren't racist.....but we do need to find ways to be more tolerant of others, that leads to a better society.
     
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  5. SirGalahad

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    The problem with the BLM movement people do not put into context and as it an amorphous movement. However the gestation of the movement was in good faith.

    The BLM movement has more relevance in the USA because of certain peculiarities - it really loses its edge as some sort of transnational issue. It should be viewed through the prism of socioeconomics.

    In Ferguson Missouri where there were riots a few years back. The local council had decided to make cuts to their budget and turned to the Police to make up the shortfall who then began fining people for minor misdemeanors such as driving a 1mph over the limit. They focused their efforts in the poorer parts of the locality where predominantly Black people lived. So this caused resentement when officers were being unduly harsh and being promoted for the number of fines they could issue.

    Factor in the Police qualified immunity and you have a dangerous cocktail which only needed a spark to ignite.

    When you private jails and judges sending people to jail with harsh sentences as they were getting kickbacks the whole policing and justice system unduly penalises the poor and in America as it just happens the Blacks tend to be poor. Ontop you have poor people (those on low wages) who cannot access affordable healthcare so in turn they get hooked on opioids to manage their pain and symptoms leading to huge cases of drug abuse and mental health problems.
     
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    Indeed but i refer to my previous comments on Racism. Its so one sided now it's unreal. I could argue i've struggled at times in a workplace where i didn't fit in due to my appearance. But never stopped me getting to where i am.
    I think we also need to put the message across racism comes in many forms. Unless you're an apologist, personally i dont like the BLM message or their take on 'racism' it's a two way street not a priority road for one colour only. I honestly don't think we need to change. Ive said it before i've never seen such commitment to diversity to the point i see white people losing employment due to their colour to ensure a diverse team, when the actual representation ratio is way beyond what it should be, don't get me wrong anyone with the right talent should get those roles irrespective of colour and race, anyone business minded sees that and would never let colour stand in the way.

    New laws for stop n search for persistent criminals why not. When i was a lad few of my mates were definitely stopped more than me, because they were known to the police as trouble, and they were invariably up to no good, that's how they ticked. But today of course it's claimed its just a veil to allow the racist police to continue under a veil... Its not racism ffs, that's using racism to deflect, there lies the issue.

    We need to be more tolerant of others, we also need to respect the British way of life the British traditions beliefs and customs. We are multi racial that's great but we are fundamentally British that must be respected too and not levered out the way by the culturally or racially 'offended'.

    Also may i add not pointed at anyone in particular but:

    Using the IF THEN response to anyone who doesn't agree is divisive.
    e.g IF you do not agree with me THEN you are part of the problem.
     
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  7. Vinty

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    In reference to celebrities like Lewis Hamilton who abuse their terms of employment.
    Hamilton is employed to drive racing cars, when he and others get down on their knees in front of the worlds media, they are using their place of work as a platform to promote controversial political opinions.
    Corporate sponsors have to pay to get their brands exposure in the minds of millions of people who watch formula 1, so why should the likes of Lewis Hamilton be allowed to promote his political opinions for free.
    Should any celebrity who feels strongly about any cause be allowed to use what essentially is his place of work to make political statements about issues which are nothing to do with his contract of employment.
     
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    They are for causes that everyone is afraid to criticise.

    How many of the other drivers would prefer not to do it but also are afraid to say it?
     
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    As I have said before, Lewis should look at Mercedes, and there use of Jewish slaves during World War 2.

    He is quite happy to be paid millions, from a corporation that built itself up during that time, using slaves.
     
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    Doesn't matter , they're hardly going to sack the best racing driver are they?
    That's why footballers get away with the stuff they do.
     
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    How far should one go back?

    What a bellend notion.
     
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    Exploitation of the 3rd world

    Were do the raw materials Come from that build yer houses?

    Copper for the water and leccy cables

    Dug out the ground by sone poor snuck on less than a dollar a day

    All the minerals that power yer phones and leccy car batteries etc etc

    Do people actually give a s***
     
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    My point entirely, Black slavery easily preceded Jewish slavery.

    What a bellend response.
     
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    it's been estimated that 12 million skaves were taken from Africa by Arabs

    Before a white man set foot on the continent

    50000 people were taken from Cornwall by the Arabs / moors and put Into slavery;)
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    The Romans had slaves ( source of I nfo Spaticus film ;)

    Black Africans were up to there eye balls in the slave trade ;)

    Slavery is still going on today
     
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    What utter idiocy. So I am complicit in Black Slavery? What are you on about you dolt?
     
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    You need to re-read what I said, without becoming abusive.

    Lewis is supporting the BLM and also the of removing statues of slave trader supporters.
    If he wants to tear down history from up to 300 years ago, then he needs to look at The Mercedes corp actions of 80 years ago.
     
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