It'll be like a Holiday in Cambodia - no amenities, cold rice and maggots for lunch...if you're lucky! FillyB. thinks they never 'ad it so good.
Zion and the Art of Armageddon
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Thank you for confirming you know f*ck all about that concept...
But then again you put jobs and profits above people dying as always...
You have a nasty way of thinking...
Just like your nasty party!
Evac's more confusing. Seems the 300,000 is from Rafar. Also some number in the north where "destroyed" HAMAS are regrouping. More extreme action needed. Other areas as well. Bit confusing at the moment.
Brit Isreali hostage dead. Had health problems, attack injured him but unable to get him to hospital. Source - HAMAS. Well fairly well documented info - they managed to kill 12 hostages despite being warned how many hostages were in a house. Took a wall down with a tank. Dead hostages are of less use to HAMAS and all in Gaza are having problems with their morgues.
AlJ had fun with some pro Israeli news editor. She starts with HAMAS info saying it means 11,000 less deaths. Misquote - it's 11,000 that they are having problems identifying. Much the same problem occurred several times during the interview.
The US are ignoring damage to UN installations, mosques and schools etc as Israel say they are investigating. Of course the occupied element doesn't crop up at all - there are definite war crimes in that area. Thoughts on why - message about support from Biden or start of a policy change on attitude. Message seen as favourite. also less war crimes as only specific instances mentioned. Mosque destruction appears to be the norm. Education - often.
Yet more bulldozed mass graves around El Shifa. There was a short video showing arms found in there - 4 or so hand guns and one rifle, wooden stock,old. I'm having problems with this one. Stay in or get shot as usual while fighting is going on in the general area and then the final results on the building. Maybe I am too suspicious.
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What party is that than ??
Well one has to consider the economics involved in this caper
No point in cutting yer nose off to spite yer face
As for party ??? Well Er kier starmer is a decent enough bloke
But appears to be some what silent on your genocide claim ???
Do you often post the same thing in different threads?
US offers Israel intelligence information to avoid full-scale Rafah op. - Washington Post
The information offered by the US reportedly includes details regarding the whereabouts of Hamas leaders and the terror group's tunnels.
www.jpost.com
Cameron has been spouting. Much like the US except most in one go.
Arms supply and misuse. They ask Israel to investigate. No report of possible cases though.
UNRWA, One investigation completed and all looks Ok. French lady one. There is another and awaiting results. That one is specific and concerns some UNRWA workers. Very little info about. They don't appear to be revealing results one by one and may have completed some.
Rafar attack. They have seen no plan to evac civilians or what ever is done.
Aid - as you would expect must get more in. Nothing new about that and it hasn't achieved previous levels. Currently in the south still more or less shut off. Some down to carriers not wanting to go into an active war zone. Might also be road damage related. UNRWA has chosen to remain but not much they can do.
HAMAS usual. Must release all hostages for a ceasefire. Vague about what happens during or after that.
Then the conversation with Laura deteriorated to slang off Labour. BBC cut the news report off then after the usual came out. That was started by a question about the defector.
Arms supply and misuse. They ask Israel to investigate. No report of possible cases though.
UNRWA, One investigation completed and all looks Ok. French lady one. There is another and awaiting results. That one is specific and concerns some UNRWA workers. Very little info about. They don't appear to be revealing results one by one and may have completed some.
Rafar attack. They have seen no plan to evac civilians or what ever is done.
Aid - as you would expect must get more in. Nothing new about that and it hasn't achieved previous levels. Currently in the south still more or less shut off. Some down to carriers not wanting to go into an active war zone. Might also be road damage related. UNRWA has chosen to remain but not much they can do.
HAMAS usual. Must release all hostages for a ceasefire. Vague about what happens during or after that.
Then the conversation with Laura deteriorated to slang off Labour. BBC cut the news report off then after the usual came out. That was started by a question about the defector.
The northern action is in a place called Jabalia which also has a refugee camp nearby. It's been hit a surprisingly number of earlier times and more recently has been stated as finished. No more HAMAS..
Now HAMAS regrouping IDF appear to be trying to surround the area ?? but meanwhile are bombing certain civilian buildings. Some concentration maybe some missed. Aim could be to control the area from boarder to the coast. Sort of splitting the north end in half.
A hospital up north did get something of a resupply. As ambulances around it still seems to be working but with growing amounts of rubble in the area. Attacks shown seem to be in daylight
Civilians told to evac south but civil functions remain. Civilians - pass but deaths reported.
Now HAMAS regrouping IDF appear to be trying to surround the area ?? but meanwhile are bombing certain civilian buildings. Some concentration maybe some missed. Aim could be to control the area from boarder to the coast. Sort of splitting the north end in half.
A hospital up north did get something of a resupply. As ambulances around it still seems to be working but with growing amounts of rubble in the area. Attacks shown seem to be in daylight
Civilians told to evac south but civil functions remain. Civilians - pass but deaths reported.
...But for Palestinians, the notion that there’s a version of Zionism under which they can live in dignity is contradicted by history, because Zionism underpins the policies that drove their mass displacement from what became Israel in 1948 and has continued to displace them since. “When people think of Zionism now, they look at Gaza,” Saree Makdisi, a professor of English and comparative literature at the University of California at Los Angeles (UCLA), said. “This is what it means: that you want to have an ethnically exclusive state,” he said. “It’s ugly.”
“I am a Zionist,” the New York Times columnist Bret Stephens recently wrote, “because I see Israel as an insurance policy for every Jewish family, including mine, which has endured persecution and exile in the past and understands that we may not be safe forever in our host countries.” But there have always been Jewish communities that rejected Zionism – from secular communists to strands of Orthodox Jewry. Today, anti-Zionist Jewish students are more visible and have played an outsized role in the protests against Israel’s Gaza war.
Israel’s enduring occupation of the West Bank and Gaza has also shifted the conversation on the left, which increasingly views Zionism itself as being essential to understanding the Arab-Israeli conflict, and the war on Gaza as a logical conclusion of Zionism. The failure of the peace process to produce an independent Palestinian state, alongside perpetually expanding Israeli settlements on Palestinian land, became proof for many observers that subsequent Israeli governments were never serious about those negotiations.
Israelis and Palestinians, especially those younger than 35, are less likely to support two states. A majority of Middle East scholars, according to a 2023 poll, don’t think a Palestinian state is possible. The breakdown of a process toward a Palestinian state has also come as Palestinian, Israeli and international human rights groups have documented what they have found to be increasingly repressive apartheid policies in the occupied territories, which challenge the very notion that Israel is a democracy.
Though only a small portion of Jewish Americans see Zionism as “privileging Jewish rights over non-Jewish rights in Israel”, Palestinians, including citizens of Israel, live a very different reality. This has put liberal Zionists in America in a tenuous position. Under ever more extreme right-wing Israeli governments, the long-simmering tensions between a Jewish and a democratic state have come to a boiling point. “The painful truth is that the project to which liberal Zionists like myself have devoted ourselves for decades – a state for Palestinians separated from a state for Jews – has failed,” Peter Beinart wrote in 2020. “It is time for liberal Zionists to abandon the goal of Jewish–Palestinian separation and embrace the goal of Jewish–Palestinian equality.”
But Palestinian scholars say the Zionism that the protest movement has put at the center is simply the state of Israel’s overt ideology, which asserts the dominance of Jews over the land. “Zionism as practiced is not an abstraction,” Makdisi said. “It happened in the land of Palestine. It happened at the expense – and it’s happening at the expense – of the Palestinian people.” At Harvard University’s protest encampment in Cambridge, Massachusetts, sophomore Violet Barron said that she defers to her Palestinian classmates and peers in thinking through these complex issues. “It took watching the scale of devastation in Gaza to understand what a staunch belief in Zionism can justify,” she said.
“I am a Zionist,” the New York Times columnist Bret Stephens recently wrote, “because I see Israel as an insurance policy for every Jewish family, including mine, which has endured persecution and exile in the past and understands that we may not be safe forever in our host countries.” But there have always been Jewish communities that rejected Zionism – from secular communists to strands of Orthodox Jewry. Today, anti-Zionist Jewish students are more visible and have played an outsized role in the protests against Israel’s Gaza war.
Israel’s enduring occupation of the West Bank and Gaza has also shifted the conversation on the left, which increasingly views Zionism itself as being essential to understanding the Arab-Israeli conflict, and the war on Gaza as a logical conclusion of Zionism. The failure of the peace process to produce an independent Palestinian state, alongside perpetually expanding Israeli settlements on Palestinian land, became proof for many observers that subsequent Israeli governments were never serious about those negotiations.
Israelis and Palestinians, especially those younger than 35, are less likely to support two states. A majority of Middle East scholars, according to a 2023 poll, don’t think a Palestinian state is possible. The breakdown of a process toward a Palestinian state has also come as Palestinian, Israeli and international human rights groups have documented what they have found to be increasingly repressive apartheid policies in the occupied territories, which challenge the very notion that Israel is a democracy.
Though only a small portion of Jewish Americans see Zionism as “privileging Jewish rights over non-Jewish rights in Israel”, Palestinians, including citizens of Israel, live a very different reality. This has put liberal Zionists in America in a tenuous position. Under ever more extreme right-wing Israeli governments, the long-simmering tensions between a Jewish and a democratic state have come to a boiling point. “The painful truth is that the project to which liberal Zionists like myself have devoted ourselves for decades – a state for Palestinians separated from a state for Jews – has failed,” Peter Beinart wrote in 2020. “It is time for liberal Zionists to abandon the goal of Jewish–Palestinian separation and embrace the goal of Jewish–Palestinian equality.”
But Palestinian scholars say the Zionism that the protest movement has put at the center is simply the state of Israel’s overt ideology, which asserts the dominance of Jews over the land. “Zionism as practiced is not an abstraction,” Makdisi said. “It happened in the land of Palestine. It happened at the expense – and it’s happening at the expense – of the Palestinian people.” At Harvard University’s protest encampment in Cambridge, Massachusetts, sophomore Violet Barron said that she defers to her Palestinian classmates and peers in thinking through these complex issues. “It took watching the scale of devastation in Gaza to understand what a staunch belief in Zionism can justify,” she said.
“The painful truth is that the project to which liberal Zionists like myself have devoted ourselves for decades – a state for Palestinians separated from a state for Jews – has failed,” Peter Beinart wrote in 2020. “It is time for liberal Zionists to abandon the goal of Jewish–Palestinian separation and embrace the goal of Jewish–Palestinian equality.”
Now that's a genuinely radical idea - both sides want a 'land from the river to the sea', so why not propose a power-sharing framework for Jew and Arab alike to share their country together...
A mad idea, right?
Now that's a genuinely radical idea - both sides want a 'land from the river to the sea', so why not propose a power-sharing framework for Jew and Arab alike to share their country together...
A mad idea, right?
Israel already does that with it's resident 1.5 million arabs.
I think you've misunderstood the concept of power-sharing.
I think you've misunderstood the concept of an independent nation state surrendering to another state.
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