How does a woman proceed with an abortion without form HSA1 being signed by 2 doctors.
Does she pop into boots and say "nah don't bother with all that form filling, gimmie some abortion pills and please can I pay for this meal deal at the same time"
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Does she pop into boots and say "nah don't bother with all that form filling, gimmie some abortion pills and please can I pay for this meal deal at the same time"
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its a medical judgement
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10% of forms go missing, are incorrectly completed or the subsequent notification form missed. All these terminations proceed and they do without any criminal offences being committed.
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Is it up to you to decide how somebody goes about making their argument? A huge amount of weight has been put on the importance of signing the HSA1. Aren't you even a tiny bit curious about its actual legal status?
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Honestly? Not really.
Requirement for two doctors' signatures
84. The Abortion Act 1967 requires that an abortion under ground A to E is certified by two doctors, who must each sign a Department of Health HSA 1 form to give notification that the abortion has been approved and on what grounds, and an HSA 4 form for information including patient details, the method of abortion and gestation time.
85. A range of explanations have been given for the introduction of the requirement for two doctors' signatures:
- to ensure that the provisions in the legislation were being observed ;[96]
- to protect women;[97]
- to protect doctors from breaking the law ;[98]
- to demonstrate the medico-legal concerns of Parliament, namely that the 1967 Act did not make abortion legal but conferred upon doctors a defence against illegality—the two doctors are expected to police each other; [99]
- to show the seriousness of the decision to terminate; [100]
Irrelevant waffle.
Requirement for two doctors' signatures
84. The Abortion Act 1967 requires that an abortion under ground A to E is certified by two doctors, who must each sign a Department of Health HSA 1 form to give notification that the abortion has been approved and on what grounds, and an HSA 4 form for information including patient details, the method of abortion and gestation time.
85. A range of explanations have been given for the introduction of the requirement for two doctors' signatures:
- to ensure that the provisions in the legislation were being observed ;[96]
- to protect women;[97]
- to protect doctors from breaking the law ;[98]
- to demonstrate the medico-legal concerns of Parliament, namely that the 1967 Act did not make abortion legal but conferred upon doctors a defence against illegality—the two doctors are expected to police each other; [99]
- to show the seriousness of the decision to terminate; [100]
Here is the Parliamentary report if you are interested.
Parliament actually.....
Requirement for two doctors' signatures
84. The Abortion Act 1967 requires that an abortion under ground A to E is certified by two doctors, who must each sign a Department of Health HSA 1 form to give notification that the abortion has been approved and on what grounds, and an HSA 4 form for information including patient details, the method of abortion and gestation time.
85. A range of explanations have been given for the introduction of the requirement for two doctors' signatures:
- to ensure that the provisions in the legislation were being observed ;[96]
- to protect women;[97]
- to protect doctors from breaking the law ;[98]
- to demonstrate the medico-legal concerns of Parliament, namely that the 1967 Act did not make abortion legal but conferred upon doctors a defence against illegality—the two doctors are expected to police each other; [99]
- to show the seriousness of the decision to terminate; [
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Still not posting Law. I wonder why.
Do you need the link to the legislation again?
Do you need the link to the legislation again?
You still denying that abortion destroys a human life.
Maybe if they had listened to others instead of listening to people like you and had their child, then 200,000 woman and 200,000 children would be alive today.
A win win for all concerned.
I think we have to understand this in its historical context. Abortion is quite unique because under the Offences Against the Person Act abortion is still illegal in this country, which means that if you commit an illegal abortion you can go to prison for 14 years. The reason there are two doctors in the Act has nothing to do with medicine or safety but everything to do with legality.[115]
Clueless lol.
Its here if you want to read it. And was written by folk with vast knowledge of abortion and the law. Go to item no 91
Irrelevant. Are you saying the Parliamentary report is lying....
Requirement for two doctors' signatures
84. The Abortion Act 1967 requires that an abortion under ground A to E is certified by two doctors, who must each sign a Department of Health HSA 1 form to give notification that the abortion has been approved and on what grounds, and an HSA 4 form for information including patient details, the method of abortion and gestation time.
85. A range of explanations have been given for the introduction of the requirement for two doctors' signatures:
- to ensure that the provisions in the legislation were being observed ;[96]
- to protect women;[97]
- to protect doctors from breaking the law ;[98]
- to demonstrate the medico-legal concerns of Parliament, namely that the 1967 Act did not make abortion legal but conferred upon doctors a defence against illegality—the two doctors are expected to police each other; [99]
- to show the seriousness of the decision to terminate;
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QUOTE="noseall, post: 5696279, member: 28558"]
I think we have to understand this in its historical context. Abortion is quite unique because under the Offences Against the Person Act abortion is still illegal in this country, which means that if you commit an illegal abortion you can go to prison for 14 years. The reason there are two doctors in the Act has nothing to do with medicine or safety but everything to do with legality.[115]
Clueless lol.
Its here if you want to read it. And was written by folk with vast knowledge of abortion and the law. Go to item no 91
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You do realise I was stating that "the best course of action" is a medical judgement. Your clueless idiot jibe is actually at Notch.
I think we have to understand this in its historical context. Abortion is quite unique because under the Offences Against the Person Act abortion is still illegal in this country, which means that if you commit an illegal abortion you can go to prison for 14 years. The reason there are two doctors in the Act has nothing to do with medicine or safety but everything to do with legality.[115]
Clueless lol.
Its here if you want to read it. And was written by folk with vast knowledge of abortion and the law. Go to item no 91
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You do realise I was stating that "the best course of action" is a medical judgement. Your clueless idiot jibe is actually at Notch.
We received evidence that the two signature requirement is an artefact of the legal basis of the Abortion Act 1967. Dr Peter Saunders, who spoke to us as a representative of the Alive & Kicking alliance, summed it up:
I think we have to understand this in its historical context. Abortion is quite unique because under the Offences Against the Person Act abortion is still illegal in this country, which means that if you commit an illegal abortion you can go to prison for 14 years. The reason there are two doctors in the Act has nothing to do with medicine or safety but everything to do with legality.[115]
OOF!
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