can a plumber do like for like electrics as in wiring an immersion. surely he shouldnt need spark for that. a plumber can earth bond as long as he gets a spark to pass it. please clarify for me,cheers.
Nige hope you didn`t do kitchen or bathroom because they are so much more difficult than the rest of the circuit
As the boiler is classed as a permanent appliance the 'fortuitous' fused spur does not exclude the need for testing.
And if it is in a kitchen or bathroom the circuit and boiler are still fully notifiable
Earth bonding isn't notifiable so why would a spark need to pass it?
You are reading the regulations selectively.
Heating installation wiring is notifiable, it says that on the pages you have posted. Boilers are classed as fixed items even if a plug and socket is used.
If you fit a boiler in a kitchen or bathroom it is notifiable. If you connect a boiler and controls anywhere else it should be tested by a Part P qualified person. If there is controls wiring it is notifiable.
If you are connecting new boilers in peoples homes then under Building Regs you should be either a part P holder yourself or hiring somebody that is.
The facts are that at the moment my estimate is that only 10% of installations are being checked by a qualified person (Part p qualified) and that makes life very difficult for those of us who have paid for the training, test gear, trade membership and calibration.
Few customers want to pay for the additional time (and sometimes materials) required to complete these tests and there is very little enforcement going on.
I don't necessarily agree with Part P, Billy Bob - but your interpretation of the regs is convenient but wrong. Unfortunately!
also why should I charge more for an electrician for doing nothing more complicated than changing a plug, it is an insult to our inteligence, if however I needed a new circuit for a boiler in a new location, I would use an electrician, but the job would be larger so could warrant the extra costs.
bengasman";p="812984 said:Earth bonding isn't notifiable so why would a spark need to pass it?
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MEB never has been notifiable and still isn't.
Why do people keep saying Part P qualified? There is no such qualification its a registration scheme to say your aware of the Building regs and are compliant.
All testing is carried out in line with BS7671,OSG and GN3 not Part P.Part P has everything to do with install from where its located to how its fitted and nothing to do with the testing.
Certs were and had to be issued way before Part P was introduced, its a requirement of the regs.
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