Concentration camps

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Abram Sachar provides the following account of the liberation of Dachau.. most of the German staff have fled, leaving the prisoners and a few SS men to fend for themselves. Holocaust-deniers would have you believe that scenes like the one described here simply didn't happen - an assertion so offensive and insulting on its face as to be discarded without consideration...

"On the last Sunday of April 1945, the first Allied soldier, an American scout of Polish descent, came through the gate of the main Dachau camp. The few Nazis in the tower watched apprehensively. They were no longer there as guards; they had been ordered to stay on merely to complete the formalities of surrender. The upper ranks had already fled, to blend in among the German civilian population. The young American's first impression, later detailed in an interview, was one of `glaring chaos,' thousands of ragged skeletons, in the yard, in the trees, waving little rags, climbing over one another, hysterical, completely out of control. <7> The scout went back for support and returned with a small detatchment. The flags of many Allied nations had suddenly appeared. Apparently the prisoners had been secretly piecing them together over the months, from tatters and patches and strips of cloth. One prisoner, a Polish priest, exuberantly kissed an officer, learning later to his glee that she was Marguerite Higgins, of the New York `Herald Tribune,' the first American war correspondent to report on Dachau. A military chaplain came forward and asked that all who could do so join him in a prayer of thanksgiving. ...

"Soon the advance scouts were joined by other Allied soldiers and one of the German guards came forward to surrender with what he believed would be the usual military protocol. He emerged in full regalia, wearing all his decorations. He had only recently been billeted to Dachau from the Russian front. He saluted and barked `Heil Hitler.' An American officer looked down and around at mounds of rotting corpses, at thousands of prisoners shrouded in their own filth. He hesitated only a moment, then spat in the Nazi's face, snapping `Schweinehund,' before ordering him taken away. Moments later a shot rang out and the American officer was informed that there was no further need for protocol.

"Some of the Nazis were rounded up and summarily executed along with the guard dogs. Two of the most notorious prison guards had been stripped naked before the Americans arrived to prevent them from slipping away unnoticed. They, too, were cut down. General Eisenhower sent a laconic communique from headquarters: `Our forces liberated and mopped up the infamous concentration camp at Dachau. Approximately 32,000 prisoners were liberated; 300 SS camp guards were quickly neutralized.'

"During the next few days as the burials went forward, the sick and the dying were transferred to hospital facilities, makeshift as they had to be, and food was carefully distributed. `Prescribed' might be the better word, for the starving had to adjust their food intake with medical discipline. Only then did the American command turn to review the files that the Germans, with characteristic meticulousness, had maintained.

"The full record of the pseudo-medical experimentations came to light. Prisoners had been used as laboratory animals, without the humane restrictions placed on vivisection. Hannah Arendt suggested that `the camp was itself a vast laboratory in which the Nazis proved that there is no limit to human depravity.' For it was remembered that these experiments were not planned or conducted by identifiable psychopaths. They were performed or supervised by professional scientists, trained in what had been once considered peerless universities and medical schools. Reverend Franklin Littell called them `technically competent barbarians.' Indeed the procedures had the full approval and cooperation of Berlin's Institute of Hygiene." (Sachar, 8-10)

http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/camps/dachau/dachau-01.html
 
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You have been brainwashed Norcon. It is YOU that is getting shafted - well and truly. :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
 
Do you really think that the country that invented Sarin and tabun and that other one would really use a flippin' diesel engine to kill a million people?

Then to top it off they completely forget where they put the bodies.

They also forgot what fuel they used to burn the bodies.

No wonder they lost the war if that's the best they can do.

I'm sorry but it sounds like an episode of the Keystone Cops.
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Diesel Gassing
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Holocaust-deniers often claim that it is impossible to obtain lethal exhaust from a diesel engine, unless it is run in highly abnormal conditions. This is not true, as the following graph shows. It is a plot of exhaust composition of a diesel engine, taken from the paper "The Significance of Diesel-Exhaust-Gas Analysis", by J.C. Holtz and M.A. Elliot, Transactions of the ASME, Vol. 63, 1941, p. 97-105. The authors specify the normal fuel-air ratio for one of the engines ("Engine B") as 0.058 and below. As the graph shows, lethal exhaust was produced at ratios well within this normal range; for instance, at a ratio of 0.050, the exhaust contained 5.8 percent oxygen, and 11 percent carbon dioxide. At a ratio of 0.055, the exhaust contained 3.8 percent oxygen, and 12 percent carbon dioxide. This is, clearly, a lethal concentration. As a matter of fact, less than 8 percent of oxygen is a lethal concentration. The air in the gas chambers was even more lethal than these numbers indicate, since the exhaust contains other toxic gases, such as NO2 (nitrogen dioxide) which causes sever irritation of the airways and makes breathing difficult, as well as soot, which blocks the airways.

It should also be noted that the authors had no difficulty in running the engine under conditions which resulted in an exhaust containing even less oxygen, and more than 6 percent carbon monoxide (which is very quickly lethal even in the presence of oxygen). There was no problem involved in running the engines in ratios greater than that of the "normal range", since the "normal range" is maintained mainly because it yields relatively cleaner exhaust, and due to considerations of efficiency. However, if one wants to achieve exhaust which is more toxic, he would certainly consider running the engine in higher concentrations.
http://www.holocaust-history.org/~dkeren/diesel/

Running a used Russian tank engine into a gas chamber would be more than effective enough. If you doubt this, why don't you suck on an exhaust yourself. Put you lungs where your erm......
 
What a load of rubbish. A nation that invented Sarina and Tabum using an old tank diesel engine? FFS. You cannot be serious!!

It's ludicrous. Stop trying desperately to make the facts fit the crime - it isn't working.

Sarin is a nerve gas, over 500 times as lethal as cycanide. Just one whiff is all it needs to kill you within one minute.

FFS - a tank engine????

You'd do just as well with a packet of Woodbines.

So you tell me why they wouldn't use sarin?

Is it because you think they might get into trouble? :rolleyes:
 
The Germans ran there tanks on gasoline so why didnt they use their own engines to produce co
 
I guess that whoever invented the story looked at a smoky diesel tank and had a bright idea - but had no technical knowledge that diesel has far less CO than petrol - but by then they were stuck with the story so had to adapt the story to make it work. It doesn't work though does it? Looks like a bit of a bodge of a story to everyone except the believers, and they'll believe anything because that's what they were fed as children.
 
It's ludicrous. Stop trying desperately to make the facts fit the crime - it isn't working.

And this from the person whose argument is based on lies, fabrication and denial of facts and truth.

Your three main sources of information;
Weber
Cole
Leuchter

All Self confessed Holocaust deniers, all their 'evidence' proven to be a sham and all publicly admitting so.

That you insist on peddling this nonsense ad nauseum and accusing others to be nothing more than Jewish zealots when highlighting the errors and misinformation you claim to be the truth shows the type of person you really are.
 
According to you anyone that questions history is a denier. So what? You have no proof and until you do there is absolutely nothing to deny.

How many died alumni? Well? If you can't tell me then I can't be expected to believe can I?

Where are the bodies?

Why do eye-witnesses lie?

You tell us.

Why did they keep the typhus victims alive?

You tell us.

Of course he won't do any such thing.

He's been hard-wired from birth to believe -and that's what he does.

He doesn't know why he believes - he just does.
 
Oh dear.

Weber, Cole, Leuchter - the sources you put forward to validate your belief of what happened.

All publicly admitted they were part of a sham and spreading misinformation.
And all there claims shot down.

If you want to believe what they themselves have stated to be factually incorrect, then it shows you for what you are.

Please don't try bring the rest of us down to your level.

As for hardwired, brainwashed, Jewish zealots and other accusations you make against members who've refused to accept your hard right dogma, do you not see how ridiculous that makes you look in light of the responses you give?


Oh, and i see you've made it on to Wiki.
 
The Germans ran there tanks on gasoline so why didnt they use their own engines to produce co


If you would care to read the information posted you will have found your answer. They did use their own, there was only one diesel engine used because of the availability of them in that area...
 
Oh dear.

Weber, Cole, Leuchter - the sources you put forward to validate your belief of what happened.

All publicly admitted they were part of a sham and spreading misinformation.
And all there claims shot down.

If you want to believe what they themselves have stated to be factually incorrect, then it shows you for what you are.

Please don't try bring the rest of us down to your level.

As for hardwired, brainwashed, Jewish zealots and other accusations you make against members who've refused to accept your hard right dogma, do you not see how ridiculous that makes you look in light of the responses you give?


Oh, and i see you've made it on to Wiki.

Of course they admitted they had told lies - you and your crowd threatened to kill them if they didn't.

But it's no use attacking the postman is it? The letters are out there now and we can all make up our own minds,

The genie is out of the bottle. The people of Norway want answers - but you can't provide them can you?

Neither can you threaten to kill the entire population of Norway.

I hope that I NEVER get down to your level.

BTW, if you are wondering, I have no German ancestry that I know of, but I do have Jewish on both mother and fathers side.

But I still want the TRUTH.
 
The Germans ran there tanks on gasoline so why didnt they use their own engines to produce co


If you would care to read the information posted you will have found your answer. They did use their own, there was only one diesel engine used because of the availability of them in that area...

How about Sarin then? I whiff and that's it. :rolleyes:
 
Do you really think that the country that invented Sarin and tabun and that other one would really use a flippin' diesel engine to kill a million people?

Fact is they didn't use them at all, not even as a chemical weapon. So by your logic the war never happened because the didn't use it..?

Then to top it off they completely forget where they put the bodies.

What bodies? Who forgot..?

They also forgot what fuel they used to burn the bodies.

Synthetic fuel produced in the camp..?

No wonder they lost the war if that's the best they can do.

I'm sorry but it sounds like an episode of the Keystone Cops.
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You are off your head, blinkered. Nothing to offer debate other than your warped opinion, that's all it is, unsupported opinion.
 
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