Abu won`t go

[ajstoneservices]

Discredited? Show me.

I already did...

Bin Lid wasn't there at the time you claim Qatada was...

And the septics should know...after all they had been meeting with Bin Lid and funding him for years befor '89!

So you can't discredit the links as you claim

I've got loads of work to do over the next few days so if I don't reply for a little while at least you know why.

 

[DP]

islamic terrorist attack in the UK before the gulf war?

Read Pirates og Barbary Coast- raids on Irish villages.

 

[ellal]

I've got loads of work to do over the next few days so if I don't reply for a little while at least you know why.

I assume the 'work' you talk about is actually digging the hole you are in even deeper?

Have fun....

 

[ajstoneservices]

I've got loads of work to do over the next few days so if I don't reply for a little while at least you know why.

I assume the 'work' you talk about is actually digging the hole you are in even deeper?

Have fun....

Hole? dream on When you got something that proves your claims I'll spare a few minutes looking at them

But seriously, some of us do have businesses to run or jobs to do and don't have the luxury of free time that you do. And distractions like this won't get my vat return or paperwork done for an assessment and audit I'm due.

 

[ellal]

Hole? dream on When you got something that proves your claims I'll spare a few minutes looking at them

But seriously, some of us do have businesses to run or jobs to do and don't have the luxury of free time that you do. And distractions like this won't get my vat return or paperwork done for an assessment and audit I'm due.

Let's just hope you get your facts right for the VAT man, otherwise that hole you're in might have sh*t put in front of that word...

So you get back to your accounts and spare a thought for those of us unlucky enough to have an (at last count) £456k turnover...

Amazing what the 'luxury' of 'free time' can achieve....

 

[ajstoneservices]

Hole? dream on When you got something that proves your claims I'll spare a few minutes looking at them

But seriously, some of us do have businesses to run or jobs to do and don't have the luxury of free time that you do. And distractions like this won't get my vat return or paperwork done for an assessment and audit I'm due.

Let's just hope you get your facts right for the VAT man, otherwise that hole you're in might have sh*t put in front of that word...

So you get back to your accounts and spare a thought for those of us unlucky enough to have an (at last count) £456k turnover...

Amazing what the 'luxury' of 'free time' can achieve....

456k I don't want it to go that low

As for "Fact's" you haven't yet provided any just made assertions that don't hold up

 

[ellal]

456k I don't want it to go that low

Good for you...

As for "Fact's" you haven't yet provided any just made assertions that don't hold up

Nor have you...lol

 

[calorific]

@ellal. Are you suggesting that Qatada has no case at all to answer for in Jordan?

 

[ellal]

@ellal. Are you suggesting that Qatada has no case at all to answer for in Jordan?

The fact that all of his co-defendants were aquitted (in Jordan) might just lead one to question the legality of this prosecution...

Or indeed the fact that the 'evidence' against him was obtained by torture of said co-defendants...

 

[calorific]

@ellal. Are you suggesting that Qatada has no case at all to answer for in Jordan?

The fact that all of his co-defendants were aquitted (in Jordan) might just lead one to question the legality of this prosecution...

Or indeed the fact that the 'evidence' against him was obtained by torture of said co-defendants...

Must admit I am ignorant of the facts. Any chance of a link to verified evidence of their torture?

 

[ellal]

@ellal. Are you suggesting that Qatada has no case at all to answer for in Jordan?

The fact that all of his co-defendants were aquitted (in Jordan) might just lead one to question the legality of this prosecution...

Or indeed the fact that the 'evidence' against him was obtained by torture of said co-defendants...

Must admit I am ignorant of the facts. Any chance of a link to verified evidence of their torture?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/10/evidence-abu-qatada-thin-judge

Parts of the evidence against the terrorist suspect Abu Qatada are "a bit thin", according to the judge considering his deportation to face trial in Jordan.

Mr Justice Mitting also questioned how the 51-year-old radical cleric could be fairly convicted if all the alleged co-conspirators in a Jordanian bomb plot had since been acquitted – which they have....

As the hearing began, Mitting, the president of Siac, observed: "The evidence [in one of the plots] seems a bit thin." He also referred to the difficulty of using evidence from alleged co-conspirators who had subsequently had their convictions quashed. In January, the European court of human rights in Strasbourg ruled that evidence of his involvement was obtained by torturing one of his co-defendants and there was a high probability it would be used at a retrial, where it would be "of considerable, perhaps decisive importance".

This seems to be the basis on why his extradition has been blocked....

 

[ajstoneservices]

You may want read this as well http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/SIAC/2007/15_2005.html

 

[ellal]

You may want read this as well http://www.bailii.org/uk/cases/SIAC/2007/15_2005.html

Nothing new there...

But anyway - thought you had some books to cook...

 

[ajstoneservices]

I have but I'm easily distracted

 

[calorific]

Thanks for that - I'll read through it all a bit later. Final couple of questions for the time being..based on your deeper reading into these matters, do you think that Qatada actually is responsible for organising acts of terror?

If the answer is yes, do you think that it is acceptable for the UK to want to deport him as an undesirable who seems to have forgotten why he seeked asylum in the first place. I'm not suggesting sending him to Jordan, but to another country?

If the answer is no, then obviously that's that then.