Ground wire insulation

[LuaKTT]

Hi,

I bought a 46A 6mm2 T&E cable from B&Q for my 32A oven. I stripped the wires back and now have live, earth and neutral but the earth has no insulation on it. Do I need to make another trip out to buy one of them little insulation sleeve things or does it not really matter?

Thanks

 

[securespark]

Best to get a bit of sleeving.

 

[kbdiy]

What worries me when I read posts like this is that the OP seems surprised to find the bare wire in the cable. Does this not ring any alarm bells with anyone else?

 

[ban-all-sheds]

Yup - another poster who doesn't see why ignorance should be a bar to him fiddling.

 

[davelx]

Yup - another poster who doesn't see why ignorance should be a bar to him fiddling.

But as you so often point out - he probably didn't know that he didn't know.

Then he stripped the cable and found that he didn't know - at which point he tried to find out.

 

[LuaKTT]

What worries me when I read posts like this is that the OP seems surprised to find the bare wire in the cable. Does this not ring any alarm bells with anyone else?

Yup I'm pretty ignorant to this. Regardless, went out again and it's all sorted now.

Thanks

 

[JohnW2]

But as you so often point out - he probably didn't know that he didn't know. ... Then he stripped the cable and found that he didn't know - at which point he tried to find out.

Indeed, and he then was told the answer about the thing which he previously didn't know that he didn't know. So far, so good. However, the valid concern which has been raised is that, if he didn't know that he didn't know about something as basic as the presence of a bare conductor within T&E, one worries a little about what else he didn't (and still doesn't) know that he didn't (and doesn't) know (and therefore hasn't asked about) which may have been of importance to the work he has now apparently undertaken.

Kind Regards, John

 

[davelx]

But as you so often point out - he probably didn't know that he didn't know. ... Then he stripped the cable and found that he didn't know - at which point he tried to find out.

Indeed, and he then was told the answer about the thing which he previously didn't know that he didn't know. So far, so good. However, the valid concern which has been raised is that, if he didn't know that he didn't know about something as basic as the presence of a bare conductor within T&E, one worries a little about what else he didn't (and still doesn't) know that he didn't (and doesn't) know (and therefore hasn't asked about) which may have been of importance to the work he has now apparently undertaken.

Kind Regards, John

Surely the same can be said of all of us, and everyone else, at some level or other and to a greater or lesser degree. Including the professionals.

 

[JohnW2]

Surely the same can be said of all of us, and everyone else, at some level or other and to a greater or lesser degree. Including the professionals.

Of course - but, as you imply, it's a matter of 'at some level or other and to a greater or lesser degree'. The 'level' which we're talking about here is just about as low/basic as it could be. Someone surprised to find a bare conductor in T&E cable, and who didn't know whether or not it needed sleeving at the terminations, probably hasn't been anywhere near domestic wiring in the last 50 or so years.

We have no idea what else the OP does and doesn't know. There may well be no problem, but we just don't know (and, possibly, as you have implied, nor may the OP).

Kind Regards, John

 

[Taylortwocities]

I believe that the word "ground" in the title may indicate that OP may be from somewhere else....

 

[JohnW2]

I believe that the word "ground" in the title may indicate that OP may be from somewhere else....

That is a distinct possibilty, although I'm sure I've seen Bernard using the word However, I don't think that alters anything I've written.

Kind Regards, John

 

[ban-all-sheds]

But as you so often point out - he probably didn't know that he didn't know.

If he had stopped to ask himself the question "how much do I know about electrical installation work", then surely the answer would be "nothing", or "precious little" etc.

Then he stripped the cable and found that he didn't know - at which point he tried to find out.

But he should never have got that far.

The sensible thing to do at the point of answering the question is to start finding out, not to start doing despite gross ignorance and hoping to muddle through.

 

[riveralt]

Hi,

I bought a 46A 6mm2 T&E cable from B&Q for my 32A oven. I stripped the wires back and now have live, earth and neutral but the earth has no insulation on it. Do I need to make another trip out to buy one of them little insulation sleeve things or does it not really matter?

Thanks

Best buy the cable that the oven manufacturer recommended rather than what you think is required. And connect it through a cooker connection unit to the cooker switch.

It must be a pretty powerful oven at 7.36kw - in fact is it a furnace?

Most ovens tend to work from a 13Amp fused plug or are does your oven come with built in hob elements?

etc etc etc...