refurbishing a fairly unusual oriel window & some sashes

[doogyscoot]

Hi folks, I'm posting a few questions in different sections about a house we are thinking of buying. One of the issues is that it has sash Windows and an unusual oriel window. I was hoping someone could possibly give me an indication of how much it would cost to refurbish both the oriel and the sashes?
most sashes are reasonably ok, a few sills need replaced and there are some localised rotten sections but they are all free and the mechanism seems ok.
The oriel has panes set into lead work, one of the small panes is cracked and the frame (from inside) looked to have various rotten sections of timber. I know no-one could give a definitive cost, just looking for a ballpark and if possible any recommended firms near glasgow/stirling? View media item 88888 View media item 88889 View media item 88886 View media item 88892 View media item 88906 View media item 88907

 

[Deleted member 174758]

You should be able to do the sashes yourself. Parts are readily available

 

[ree]

No Oriel bays are present, merely Dormers.

Which glazings are set into lead - the four section Dormer and/or the glass cheeks of the rear Dormer?

 

[doogyscoot]

No Oriel bays are present, merely Dormers.

Which glazings are set into lead - the four section Dormer and/or the glass cheeks of the rear Dormer?

Hi Ree,

Sorry, I didn't put up a very good picture to show the oriel (at least I thought that was the correct term). The four sections of glazing in the bay all appear to be set into lead, or at least metal and I'm confident it wasn't steel. One of the 24 small panes is cracked, the rest are ok. The wooden frame it is fitted into feels rotten in places though. The glass cheeks of the dormer are all set into wooden frames, although i think most of these are rotten to some degree or another and would need repaired/replaced.

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[ree]

The new pic shows an Oriel bay.

I think that you will find on attempting any repairs that probably all the Dormers and this Oriel will need re-building.
eg. the wet rotting Oriel sill has opened at the mitres, and is allowing water behind the render on the front apron of the bay.

Lead glazing bars are known as "cames" and are v. distinctive - you dont appear to have lead cames.

 

[doogyscoot]

The new pic shows an Oriel bay.

I think that you will find on attempting any repairs that probably all the Dormers and this Oriel will need re-building.
eg. the wet rotting Oriel sill has opened at the mitres, and is allowing water behind the render on the front apron of the bay.

Lead glazing bars are known as "cames" and are v. distinctive - you dont appear to have lead cames.

Thanks for your response, good to know. I guess I'll need to do a little more investigating.

 

[Gazman16]

Assuming its not listed or conservation area its probably going to be cheaper to replace with PVC windows judging by the state of some of them.

PVC vertical sliders have come right down in price in the last few years and you would be hard pushed to tell the difference if they are well fitted, Except for being clean and new.

Depending on the area/company you can get PVC sliders fitted for around £500-600 each and bays around £1000-1500.

If you do decide to repair you could just replace the sash's themselves with new double glazed ones. This guy is good http://www.supasash.com/

 

[doogyscoot]

Assuming its not listed or conservation area its probably going to be cheaper to replace with PVC windows judging by the state of some of them.

PVC vertical sliders have come right down in price in the last few years and you would be hard pushed to tell the difference if they are well fitted, Except for being clean and new.

Depending on the area/company you can get PVC sliders fitted for around £500-600 each and bays around £1000-1500.

If you do decide to repair you could just replace the sash's themselves with new double glazed ones. This guy is good http://www.supasash.com/[/QUOTE]

Thanks for that, the house is in a conservation area but not listed so I'm not sure where I'd stand. I wouldn't want to put anyone's noise out of joint as its a small village and I think people are quite proud of the heritage style. Also, I believe older buildinbee need to breathe a lot and the sash Windows give a bit of "airflow". Double glazing would be good though and I'm not set against pvc if it didn't look too out of place. I'll look at that company you've recommended.

 

[geraldthehamster]

You could look at timber double glazing. Conservation area or not, UPVC always looks horrible, sooner or later.

Cheers
Richard