Regulations

[mcbonez]

Well the reason I mention the junctionbox is because there are no terminals left on that one so for now my new light circuit is going to come from a new junction box which has per to it from the old one the. That will be the next job to re wire the box I understand where you are coming from all I can do is send you a picture then you tell me if the circuit is going to work and a good way of doing it then I can bring this thread to a close mate this is the circuit I belive is going to work any feed back is appreciated

 

[Iggifer]

So you're going to take a cable feeding LNE from one junction box to another? Totally unnecessary

 

[mcbonez]

Yep only reason for that I don't feel confident trying to use the junction that already there have you seen the photo of it ? Lol

 

[Iggifer]

but you're still planning on adding a cable to it to power the new one, I don't understand why you need a 2nd JB

 

[mcbonez]

Because when I've got the 2 way working installed the next project will be to replace the old junction box (birds nest) with a new one mate

 

[Iggifer]

I still don't get what the 2nd JB gets you, other than an extra failure point. If you're taking a feed from the disgusting JB, just take that directly to your switch/lamp and make the necessary connections there, not in another JB

 

[mcbonez]

The ceiling rose won't allow me to split the live so it needs to be split in a junction box and sent to the switch and there ain't any room in the junction box that's already there ?

 

[riveralt]

The ceiling rose won't allow me to split the live so it needs to be split in a junction box and sent to the switch and there ain't any room in the junction box that's already there ?

Still don't know what you mean by split live.
From the ceiling rose use T&E with the permanent live to the Live on the switch and the switch live (load) returns to the ceiling rose at the switch live terminal.
Then use your strappers to link the two switches.

 

[JohnW2]

The ceiling rose won't allow me to split the live so it needs to be split in a junction box and sent to the switch and there ain't any room in the junction box that's already there ?

Although I think I understand what you mean, I'm rather intrigued by this terminology that you seem to have invented. I don't think that I've ever heard anyone else talking about 'splitting lives', yet you clearly use the term quite a bit!

Kind Regards, John

 

[Iggifer]

I was close to not even joining this thread, after my statements about the bathroom fan in the other tread, were and still are, being completely disregarded.

However, I was getting more and more frustrated with the OPs responses. But i'm with you guys, I don't particularly know what a split live is either. I guess a switched live or more likely a perm live, but clearly there is no need for a JB for either of those things.

 

[JohnW2]

However, I was getting more and more frustrated with the OPs responses. But i'm with you guys, I don't particularly know what a split live is either. I guess a switched live or more likely a perm live, but clearly there is no need for a JB for either of those things.

One obviously cannot be sure, but I have been thinking that it probably refers to sending a permanent live off to a switch and getting a switched live back from the switch. However, I might be totally wrong in that guess/assumption/whatever!

Kind Regards, John

 

[mcbonez]

Sorry switched live then my bad

 

[mcbonez]

Or should I say diverting the live to the switch ?

 

[Iggifer]

One obviously cannot be sure, but I have been thinking that it probably refers to sending a permanent live off to a switch and getting a switched live back from the switch. However, I might be totally wrong in that guess/assumption/whatever!

Yea I could go for that. The determination for a JB worries me though because I'm not sure he even got a remote understanding of a how a lighting circuit works

 

[Iggifer]

Or should I say diverting the live to the switch ?

if it's a permanent live you want. then this will either come from the ceiling rose, or likely in your case the JB.

But you're making the whole thing waaaaaay more complicated than it needs to be