Merkel. .........the rise of the far right thanks to her idiocy

[JohnD]

a programne of massive state ownership and state intervention -yup thats occupying the middle ground

NHS etc -

yes indeed.

NHS etc.

And railways, utility companies, energy and water, are state-owned and run.

But not ours.

Hurrah for the generosity of the British taxpayer in contributing to state spending!
(overseas)

 

[Notch7]

It is still only your opinion.

Not true.

The labour outlining a massive programme of nationalisation and state untervention is a far left policy.

And therefore is not middle ground.

 

[noseall]

Not true
.

Yes, it is true.

The labour outlining a massive programme of nationalisation and state untervention is a far left policy.

No, it isn't. It is sensible policy. Too much money is leaving these shores through businesses operating via dishonest offshore tax evasion.

And therefore is not middle ground.

Millions will benefit. A measly few will not. Perfect middle ground.

 

[Notch7]

Yes, it is true.


No, it isn't. It is sensible policy. Too much money is leaving these shores through businesses operating via dishonest offshore tax evasion.

Millions will benefit. A measly few will not. Perfect middle ground.

I didnt say the merits or otherwise, I said its a far left policy, which it is.

State control and intervention = far left policies. Not my opinion, fact.

John Mcdonnell -far left
Seamus Milne -extreme left

It looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, oh look, its a hard left duck.

Millions will benefit -good luck with that

"The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money"

 

[JohnD]

State control and intervention = far left policies. Not my opinion, fact.

poor notch looks out of his hole, and to him, everything seems left. He doesn't understand that "Facts" and "things Notch thinks today" are not the same thing. He must be very distressed that people don't agree with him.

NHS? State control and intervention = far left policies.

Disability Living help? State control and intervention = far left policies.

State-funded education? State control and intervention = far left policies.

Street lights paid for by the taxpayer? State control and intervention = far left policies.

Pensions for the old? State control and intervention = far left policies.

Child benefit? State control and intervention = far left policies.

Fire service funded by taxes? State control and intervention = far left policies.

 

[noseall]

I said its a far left policy, which it is.
"

...and I said it isn't, which it is not. Ho hum. Great fun this debating lark.

 

[Doggit]

That's not debating Noesall, that's just contradiction.

It is a left wing policy, but in this case, it's also a sensible one.

 

[JohnD]

That's not debating Noesall, that's just contradiction.

No it isn't.

 

[Notch7]

poor notch looks out of his hole, and to him, everything seems left. He doesn't understand that "Facts" and "things Notch thinks today" are not the same thing. He must be very distressed that people don't agree with him.

NHS? State control and intervention = far left policies.

Disability Living help? State control and intervention = far left policies.

State-funded education? State control and intervention = far left policies.

Street lights paid for by the taxpayer? State control and intervention = far left policies.

Pensions for the old? State control and intervention = far left policies.

Child benefit? State control and intervention = far left policies.

Fire service funded by taxes? State control and intervention = far left policies.

As always, more techniques used to avoid answering.

Corbyn and co far left. Too left for the party moderates, which why they tried to get rid

Seamus Milne, the Labour partys new spokesman is as far left as they come

Still quacking like a Left duck

 

[JohnD]

In all fairness, here's the case in favour of privatisation

 

[JohnD]

poor old notch will burst with rage when he learns that 60% of UK voters are "hard left" in his warped and illogical view.



Railway companies

Should be run in the public sector
60%

Should be run by the private sector
25%

Don’t know
15%

Water companies

Should be run in the public sector
59%

Should be run by the private sector
25%

Don’t know
16%




Source: Yougov poll
Sample Size: 1936 GB Adults
Fieldwork: 17th - 18th May 2017

 

[JohnD]

In the 2014 survey, 42% of Conservatives were "hard left"

And 60%, again, of the public as a whole.

Poor old Notch must be wearing rose-tinted glasses.

 

[Notch7]

Ive made this one up for you:

Seamus Milne, Labour partys new spokesman:

60% of the public think hes definitely in the centre ground

 

[Notch7]

In the 2014 survey, 42% of Conservatives were "hard left"

And 60%, again, of the public as a whole.

Poor old Notch must be wearing rose-tinted glasses.

Have a look on the left column of link below, where it says radical left ideas.
Does it say renationalising?

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/08/06/support-radical-left-and-right/

 

[JohnD]

On Notch Planet, State control and intervention = far left policies.

You've already told us that.