Vote leave breaking the law

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ellal said:
Thus you believe in a corrupt election, irrespective of the result?

If so then your vote is up for sale, and 'democracy' is (as already thought) nothing but an illusion!
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most votes are up for sale or can be bought or influenced by some perceived personal economic gain ;)

that's how politics works
 
ellal said:
Thus you believe in a corrupt election, irrespective of the result?

If so then your vote is up for sale, and 'democracy' is (as already thought) nothing but an illusion!
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Given the amounts spent by each side, a relatively small amount not registered is hardly going to make any difference.

A bit more money available for campaigning is hardly the same as buying votes.

I bet Osbornes project fear with emergency budgets had more influence than a few extra leaflets.
 
Notch7 said:
Given the amounts spent by each side, a relatively small amount not registered is hardly going to make any difference.

A bit more money available for campaigning is hardly the same as buying votes.

I bet Osbornes project fear with emergency budgets had more influence than a few extra leaflets.
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Well I suggest you read up exactly what was going on. It's far more than a small difference, the issue covers the data, payments etc.

https://www.theguardian.com/news/series/cambridge-analytica-files
 
Notch7 said:
Rubbish, If you read what I said, you will see I was countering the implication it is equivalent to buying votes, which it is not.

I suggest you concentrate more.
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I suggest you make fewer straw man arguments.
 
Kankerot said:
I suggest you make fewer straw man arguments.
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No strawman argument on my part, whatsoever.

I was countering a strawman argument.

Or perhaps you are also suggesting vote leave directly bribed voters.........
 
Notch7 said:
Or perhaps you are also suggesting vote leave directly bribed voters.........
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And there you go.
Well if you read all the reports and investigation then you would know that isn't the case.

I've cleared that up for you.
 
Kankerot said:
And there you go.
Well if you read all the reports and investigation then you would know that isn't the case.

I've cleared that up for you.
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And there you go.......

My post, that you responded as 'a strawman', was in response to somebody making the implication it was buying votes. Which it is not.

There you go, cleared that for you, no need for you to twist the post stream any more.
 
Well there was me thinking that eeyore only twists, dodges and squirms when in discussion primarily with me.
I was wrong! I admit it. He is like this with anyone who has a different opinion to him.
 
Notch7 said:
Given the amounts spent by each side, a relatively small amount not registered is hardly going to make any difference.

A bit more money available for campaigning is hardly the same as buying votes.

I bet Osbornes project fear with emergency budgets had more influence than a few extra leaflets.
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Funnily enough there was an emergency budget of sorts.

(I assume you understand that the tens of billions hastily pumped into the banks in the aftermath have to be paid by the taxpayer?)

And talking of the taxpayer, they (like it or not) are funding the (hard brexit) ERG via certain MP's diverted (taxpayer funded) general expenses!
 
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transam said:
most votes are up for sale or can be bought or influenced by some perceived personal economic gain ;)

that's how politics works
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But there are electoral rules.

If an MP breaks said rules, they can be chucked out.

So if those with vested interests in the result broke electoral rules, what should happen?
And how will the result be perceived?
 
ellal said:
And how will the result be perceived?
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That question is an easy one, irrespective of any cheating:
Quitters see it as a genuine democratic process and Remainers should accept the result and fall into line, nay, enthusiastically support the result. (n)

Remainers, well they see the result as RWR telling outright lies and promising things that they know cannot be delivered. Quitters campaigned for 40 odd years, no doubt Remainers will also campaign until another referendum is allowed. (y)
 
wannabeDIY said:
That question is an easy one, irrespective of any cheating:
Quitters see it as a genuine democratic process and Remainers should accept the result and fall into line, nay, enthusiastically support the result. (n)

Remainers, well they see the result as RWR telling outright lies and promising things that they know cannot be delivered. Quitters campaigned for 40 odd years, no doubt Remainers will also campaign until another referendum is allowed. (y)
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And thus a divided nation becomes ever more divided - until it finally splits!
 
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