Reinstating Original Building

[phykell]

Hi,

I recently bought a house which has a large garden. The property has a history going back to the 1700s and is within a conservation area (it isn’t listed). Having done some research, I’ve discovered that there was once an ale house/dwelling at the very bottom of the garden and I’m now wondering if there’s a possibility that I’d be able to rebuild something along the lines of the original building that was there. I’m guessing that my local planning department would automatically reject the idea of a new build in a conservation area based solely on the idea that the garden will easily fit at least one more dwelling, but reinstatement is surely different? My own house needs a lot of renovation work so another house would be ideal to move into while the work was completed.

What does anyone think - is there a chance my local planning department would accept this as a valid reason to designate a suitable plot to “rebuild” the dwelling?

Thanks

 

[big-all]

havent got a clue
was there any accommodation in this "ale house" do you really fancy running a pub ??
would you get permission to change it from retail to domestic ??
as i say havent got a clue

 

[bernardgreen]

is there a chance my local planning department would accept this as a valid reason to designate a suitable plot to “rebuild” the dwelling?

There is a slim chance it could happen. Enlist the aid of the Conservation Officer, if he or she supports the idea of re-placing a building lost from his/her area then the planning officers could support the project. You may be restricted to building a look a like replacement building.

 

[^woody^]

Not a chance.

I once asked my council if I could rebuild the gladiator's fighting coliseum that once existed in our back gardens. They told me to sod off.

Apparently, buildings are like virginities.

 

[Tigercubrider]

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side...at=51.4446&lon=-0.9341&layers=6&right=BingHyb

I love this website- I am involved in local history.
Maybe see if you can find a map showing the building or an old photo?

 

[phykell]

Thanks for the replies - I’ll try and speak to the local conservation officer and I was able to view some maps and see where the original buildings were (I’ve seen references to that site before but always assumed it wouldn’t be relevant as it’s Scottish but actually is a great resource for the whole of the UK). I don’t think there are going to be photos as the last date I can see that there was a building is the late 1890s. I have also seen a reference to th original building as a dwelling so I’m sure rebuilding it as a house, rather than for retail use, won’t be an issue.

It would be great to rebuild at least something there as it’s wasted land at the moment - there must be some examples of where original buildings, after being knocked down, have been reinstated at a much later date.

 

[big-all]

"I have also seen a reference to th original building as a dwelling so I’m sure rebuilding it as a house, rather than for retail use, won’t be an issue."


those words may bite you in the bum

 

[phykell]

"I have also seen a reference to th original building as a dwelling so I’m sure rebuilding it as a house, rather than for retail use, won’t be an issue."


those words may bite you in the bum

I just meant that it if I was allowed to rebuild anything at all, I doubt I’d be required to reinstate it as an ale house. And why just tempt fate when you can taunt it?

 

[big-all]

I just meant that it if I was allowed to rebuild anything at all, I doubt I’d be required to reinstate it as an ale house. And why just tempt fate when you can taunt it?

that will only be one snippet in its history there may have been several hundred changes to the building the surrounding area and its use over the years effecting your situation
its only really the last recorded situation you can find and only then if it satisfies what the planning department or whoever you need to involve

 

[Footsoldier888]

It is definitely worth having a good go at this because they it makes life a lot easier for them if your site is brownfield rather than greenfield. I don't believe you would have to reinstate the building but it helps a lot if you can come up with something that relates to it in some way and alse is in context with other buildings locally.

This is the sort of planning situation where the right Architect will make all the difference to your chances of success ie someone with a record of success in this situation.

If you do put something in, try and enlist local support and be prepared to withdraw it if you get an indication by the council it will be refused. In other words you might have to re-submit a few times.

 

[^woody^]

The OP may be in luck going by this recent planning decision

Full story here

 

[phykell]

Thanks for your replies everyone - much appreciated and I will definitely give it a good go

 

[big-all]

i would wait for an hour or so as the suggestions and information given is often different after aprill fools day has passed

 

[bernardgreen]

information given is often different after aprill fools day has passed

When dealing with councils you can find that every day is a fools day.