A question

[Bodd]

I've not looked into this.

Thought it easier to get the answer off you lot.

Handling our departure from the EU within the government.

Whos the Remainers and who's the Brexitannics

 

[foxhole]

Who cares ?

 

[Bodd]

What hole are you putting your head in, Mr Fox

 

[jasonzyx]

There are some ardent supporters on both sides of Brexit.
They aren't especially all the same party, with the same beliefs. But the Tories do have most of the No Deal Brexiteers.
The rare exception is the Lib Dems and the SNPs who are all committed Remainers, and the DUP who are all committed Leavers.

There are some inbetweeners, some prepared to compromise, some hard Brexiteers, some soft Brexiteers, some Norway +, there's all sorts.
Some going against their constituents wishes, on both sides of the debate. There's even some party loyalists who will just do their leaders bidding.

And of course many who just want to further their own careers. So they'll take whichever line they think will achieve that.


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/26/how-will-your-mp-vote-on-theresa-mays-brexit-deal

 

[ban-all-sheds]

But the Tories do have most of the No Deal Brexiteers.

Here's one:

 

[Bodd]

Are the cabinet more remainers or brexiteers ?

 

[transam]

I've not looked into this.

Thought it easier to get the answer off you lot.

Handling our departure from the EU within the government.

Whos the Remainers and who's the Brexitannics

TM was a remainer ?

The majority of the MPs are or were remainers

the dip stick brexiteers are a minority

 

[jasonzyx]

Are the cabinet more remainers or brexiteers ?

It's almost irrelevant because they have to vote with the PM, or resign.

MPs may support or oppose the bill for a number of reasons: those on the government payroll, including cabinet ministers, must support the bill or resign.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/nov/26/how-will-your-mp-vote-on-theresa-mays-brexit-deal​

The "payroll vote" is far more than just cabinet ministers.

Under the principle of Cabinet collective responsibility, all ministers must publicly support the position of the Government. Any minister who wishes to vote against the Government in Parliament is obliged to resign from governmental office first. There is therefore a built-in bloc of guaranteed support for the Government on any given parliamentary vote. The size of this bloc is substantial and has been increasing over time.[2] Immediately after the 2005 general election, there were 89 ministers and 51 parliamentary private secretaries in the Commons, accounting for 40% of Labour Members of Parliament
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payroll_vote

By 2013, when counted alongside paid, (and unpaid), Ministerial positions, this meant that 39% of coalition MPs held government posts which they would need to resign if they wished to vote against the government.
The list reveals that there are currently 46 Parliamentary Private Secretaries, five more than following the 2015 general election.
the proportion of MPs who are bound to support the government has inevitably increased. There are currently 83 Ministers in the House of Commons and 18 Whips, although five of these hold more than one post. Which means that 96 MPs are Ministers or Whips. When added to the 46 PPSs, this means the payroll vote in the House of Commons is comprised of 142 MPs (10 more than in 2015). 45% of Conservative MPs must now vote with the government or resign their post
https://whorunsbritain.blogs.lincol...nd-the-irresistible-rise-in-the-payroll-vote/​

 

[Bodd]

It's almost irrelevant because they have to vote with the PM, or resign.

You say irrelevant but are they remainers doing a very bad job on Brexit.

I know TM is a remainer but what about the rest of the crew. I suspect its heavy with remainers

 

[ban-all-sheds]

That would be neither surprising nor avoidable.

 

[jasonzyx]

You say irrelevant but are they remainers doing a very bad job on Brexit.

I know TM is a remainer but what about the rest of the crew. I suspect its heavy with remainers

Almost irrelevant when it comes to voting in Parliament.

 

[jasonzyx]

You say irrelevant but are they remainers doing a very bad job on Brexit.

I know TM is a remainer but what about the rest of the crew. I suspect its heavy with remainers

Some of the more staunch Brexiteers have resigned from the Cabinet.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/pol...t-so-far-over-theresa-mays-deal-a3990691.html

Perhaps the article provided by Ban-all-sheds is a reasonable insight into why they left.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/2019/01...led-the-best-chance-of-brexit-ever-happening/

 

[durhamplumber]

TM was a remainer ?

The majority of the MPs are or were remainers

the dip stick brexiteers are a minority

So r the dipstick remainiacs on ere.