Brexit is not the will of the people, it never has been

[gasbanni]

Mmmm, so I shall put my self in Leavers shoes.

'I am now a leaver, me and all my fellow leavers cant agree on what Brexit we want, we dont care about finding any solutions to leaving, the only argument we can engage in is: we voted out we must leave.'

'We dont care about going to a place with no trade arrangements'
'We dont care that Leavers have no solution for the Irish border (apparently we do have a solution, but we cant tell you whst it is).'

You make problems and issues when there are none that's the problem with remainiacs no vision no aspiration ........sniffed the diarrhea of the EU and can't smell the aroma of the bright sunny day of Brexit .....its a bit sad really how brain washed the minority are

 

[gasbanni]

Mmmm, so I shall put my self in Leavers shoes.

'I am now a leaver, me and all my fellow leavers cant agree on what Brexit we want, we dont care about finding any solutions to leaving, the only argument we can engage in is: we voted out we must leave.'

'We dont care about going to a place with no trade arrangements'
'We dont care that Leavers have no solution for the Irish border (apparently we do have a solution, but we cant tell you whst it is).'

You make problems and issues when there are none that's the problem with remainiacs no vision no aspiration ........sniffed the diarrhea of the EU and can't smell the aroma of the bright sunny day of Brexit .....its a bit sad really how brain washed the minority are

 

[gasbanni]

Putting aside the amount that the economy has and will be further hit (and individual economic costs), there is a far more important part of Brexit that is certain...

The life choices of not only ourselves but all generations to come will be severely curtailed by the loss of freedom of movement...

When quitters find the practical realities of this coming home to roost, then I believe that they will realise that their childish 'foot stamping' moment 3 years ago was a huge mistake!

But some of us indeed knew what was at stake!

Absolute twoddle .......you seriously believe that if you want to work in Europe it won't be allowed nor someone won't be able to come here and work ....bloody wake up !! Just a remainiac silly blinkered view

 

[durhamplumber]

Putting aside the amount that the economy has and will be further hit (and individual economic costs), there is a far more important part of Brexit that is certain...

The life choices of not only ourselves but all generations to come will be severely curtailed by the loss of freedom of movement...

When quitters find the practical realities of this coming home to roost, then I believe that they will realise that their childish 'foot stamping' moment 3 years ago was a huge mistake!

But some of us indeed knew what was at stake!

3 years and counting of lal twaddle.Dry your eyes.

 

[Notch7]

You make problems and issues when there are none that's the problem with remainiacs no vision no aspiration ........sniffed the diarrhea of the EU and can't smell the aroma of the bright sunny day of Brexit .....its a bit sad really how brain washed the minority are

Oh look, thats great -Gasbanni says there are no problems with Brexit.

Sadly it rather explains the problem with Brexit -Leave campaigners like Boris, Rees Mogg, Farage have played on emotional soundbites like 'get back control', take back sovereignty'

But Leave voters dont want to face the challenge of drilling down to the details -which is where the arguments for Brexit fall apart.

I would like to hear serious discussion from leavers giving their explanation of how Brexit will work and solve the problems which are real.

 

[durhamplumber]

And where did you get your crystal ball, i want one

Rofl...The remainer ball is a special F.A.C.T. predictor model, only available to them!

 

[Notch7]

Rofl...The remainer ball is a special F.A.C.T. predictor model, only available to them!

No, when wanting to find out the truth its always useful to listen to experts with no skin in the game.

Heres a thought, if we leave without a deal, we will want to trade on WTO terms.......so what about listening to Roberto Azevêdo, director general WTO.

Guess what: he says leaving EU and going to WTO is utter carp.

He has explained the F.A.C.Ts about what will happen -and guess what, they are available to Leavers to read

 

[ellal]

Absolute twoddle .......you seriously believe that if you want to work in Europe it won't be allowed nor someone won't be able to come here and work ....bloody wake up !! Just a remainiac silly blinkered view

Oh you'll be able to work in Europe alright...

You'll just have to get a specific work visa for each and every country you want to work in...

And when we introduce as stated a so-called 'points based system' here, then that will be reciprocal...

And when as stated we bring in a £30k lowest wage threshold, then that too will be reciprocal...

Still I guess whatever system/limit is put in place won't affect most quitters.

They'd never qualify

 

[durhamplumber]

No, when wanting to find out the truth its always useful to listen to experts with no skin in the game.

Heres a thought, if we leave without a deal, we will want to trade on WTO terms.......so what about listening to Roberto Azevêdo, director general WTO.

Guess what: he says leaving EU and going to WTO is utter carp.

He has explained the F.A.C.Ts about what will happen -and guess what, they are available to Leavers to read

When are you going to change your mind again? You are worse than Jezza!

 

[durhamplumber]

No, when wanting to find out the truth its always useful to listen to experts with no skin in the game.

Heres a thought, if we leave without a deal, we will want to trade on WTO terms.......so what about listening to Roberto Azevêdo, director general WTO.

Guess what: he says leaving EU and going to WTO is utter carp.

He has explained the F.A.C.Ts about what will happen -and guess what, they are available to Leavers to read

Is not a person on the planet who knows where brexit will take UK economically.Give ya head a shake.

 

[SirGalahad]

Is not a person on the planet who knows where brexit will take UK economically.Give ya head a shake.

So from saying the benefits will be clear and present we now have moved back to they are undefined, or the pain is worth some notional future benefit realised 50 years from now.

One clear benefit, it cant be that hard.

 

[durhamplumber]

Ha ha

he WTO's current Director-General is Roberto Azevêdo......he is not a remainer.

Bryce Baschuk......he is not a remainer
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...ing-how-hard-a-hard-brexit-could-be-quicktake

Can you provide any leave experts that say WTO terms will be good

You have more chance of meeting moses today than finding an "expert" who can predict 100% UK finances in 4 weeks, never mind years down the line out of E U.

 

[durhamplumber]

So from saying the benefits will be clear and present we now have moved back to they are undefined, or the pain is worth some notional future benefit realised 50 years from now.

One clear benefit, it cant be that hard.

...Precisely.not hard...Just you aint listenin bro..Too obsessed with the comfirmation bias...Your best bet, sell up...buy gold ,,and sod off to Germany to live so you can whinge to them about how crap UK is and how fantastic EU is.

 

[JohnD]

You have more chance of meeting moses today than ....

...than a Brexer who can make a coherent case for any benefits of leaving the Union.

 

[Notch7]

You have more chance of meeting moses today than finding an "expert" who can predict 100% UK finances in 4 weeks, never mind years down the line out of E U.

Nobody can predict finances.

It is totally possible to show that leaving 759 trade agreements and joining a 2nd rate trade alliance with no trade deals in place will be damaging.

Very damaging.

This is not some vague economic prediction, its about the real problem of a G7 country leaving a huge trade alliance and going to another one.

Brexit may be deliverable
Brexit with the benefits that leavers want: not deliverable.