Where can I get this kind or architrave / moulding?

[JamesBlonde]

We have a low set window with a curtain rail screwed directly into the old and crumbling wall - and the screw holes have failed - again.

We want to mount the curtain rail (1.25m long) to a piece of wood (maybe 1.5m long and 10cm / 5" wide), and screw / glue the wood to the wall - should be much more secure.

But....

We want the wood to have decorative edges all round, in keeping with the old victorian window moulding we have on the other windows. Not looking for anything particularly fancy - just decoration on all 4 edges!

This sort of thing, without the coathooks, is what I'm looking for. Maybe a bit fancier if we can get it? Honestly, I thought this would be an easy find, but I'm struggling, and I don't even know what to call it! Anyone able to point me in the right direction??

 

[Notch7]

That's just a bit of 100 x 20 oak with an ovolo moulder run around all 4 edges.

Easily done with a router and a bearing guided ovolo cutter.

Unlikely available off the shelf though.

 

[mrrusty]

Putting up a timber batten may well help but you still need good fixings. Either for the batten or for the curtain brackets themselves a way of getting a good fixing in a bad wall is to use a resin fixture. The easiest way to do this is to drill an oversized hole - say 10mm for a 6mm threaded bar, blow out the dust and then inject a resin like this https://www.screwfix.com/p/rawlplug-r-kem-ii-styrene-free-polyester-resin-300ml/32863

Push in a piece of threaded bar and let it set - it goes off very quickly so move fast. You can then use the bit of threaded bar sticking out the wall to get a fixing.

 

[charliegolf]

There's a hardware store/timber merchant in our town who would do that assuming you bought the timber from there. Bound to be one within a few miles or you? What about googling woodworking clubs? They'd do it for a bung to club funds.

 

[JamesBlonde]

Putting up a timber batten may well help but you still need good fixings. Either for the batten or for the curtain brackets themselves a way of getting a good fixing in a bad wall is to use a resin fixture. The easiest way to do this is to drill an oversized hole - say 10mm for a 6mm threaded bar, blow out the dust and then inject a resin like this https://www.screwfix.com/p/rawlplug-r-kem-ii-styrene-free-polyester-resin-300ml/32863

Push in a piece of threaded bar and let it set - it goes off very quickly so move fast. You can then use the bit of threaded bar sticking out the wall to get a fixing.

Can I just clarify, could I just dill / screw straight into the resin? Or better to set the screw / bar into it first? Maybe we can forget about the batten in the short term till we can find someone who can rout it. Don't know of any hardware shops or clubs who could do this right now, and curtain brackets are getting looser by the day!

 

[mrrusty]

No, you set the bar in the resin, and once it's set use it to get a fixing. Just cut it off to length with a hacksaw once set if it's too long. You possibly could fill the hole with resin, then drill and plug it, but never tried that.

 

[charliegolf]

Why is this a bad idea?

Screw 3 or 4 4" screws into the timber.
Offer up to wall, mark screw points. (Level as you can)
Drill oversize holes in wall.
Inject resin
Shove the screws in.
Quickly do final level.
Hold for 5 mins.

Happy to take the abuse... But why not?

 

[foxhole]

You need to establish the wall make up , just squirting resin in may be fruitless.

 

[mrrusty]

You need to establish the wall make up , just squirting resin in may be fruitless.

If you can't get a fixing with resin and a bit of threaded bar, you ain't going to get a fixing with anything.

Happy to take the abuse... But why not?

It may work to some extent, but there would be no tension in the fixing holding it all tight together. When you tighten something up, much of the strength comes from the friction between the two surfaces.