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Will she be the next leader of the Labour Party? I think she’s probably the one to change their brand.

thoughts?
 
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What happened to people standing for election based on their principles?

If they didn't get elected so be it.


Now it's "What would you like me to pretend to be so that you will vote for me?".
 
Just another gobby Manc. I get the impression she’s just waiting for the right opportunity to stick the knife in Starmers back.
 
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What happened to people standing for election based on their principles?

Nothing

they never win, ever.


Let’s suppose we live in a country of huge inequality, where the poor can barely make rent, there’s no public services safety net, universal credit is hardly enough to live on…….

Let’s say a politician believes a socialist agenda will solve all those problems…..


How do you think that’ll work out
 
Will she be the next leader of the Labour Party? I think she’s probably the one to change their brand.

thoughts?

Yes, why not.

Starmer hasn’t exactly set the world on fire.

Angela Rayner would get more media coverage.

my concern would be whether she would get taken apart by the lies and dishonesty of Johnson and the right wing media.
 
Let’s suppose we live in a country of huge inequality, where the poor can barely make rent, there’s no public services safety net, universal credit is hardly enough to live on…….
Let’s say a politician believes a socialist agenda will solve all those problems…..
How do you think that’ll work out
Do you mean work out for the politician or for the country?
 
Just read a load of her tweets. Some good sense there, but that's not enough. She comes across to me as an old style stereotypical "pay the workers more" person. An easy populist tactic but I don't think many would readily trust her with much of strategic signficance. She may be able to run the department of payouts, but who runs the economy?

Looked her up:
Not the greatest strategic decision perhaps, was leaving school aged 16 whilst pregnant and without any qualifications. Since then she has done one NVQ level 2. (About one gcse). I'd be more impressed if she'd done an OU degree in Politics and Economics, say.
 
Nothing

they never win, ever.


Let’s suppose we live in a country of huge inequality, where the poor can barely make rent, there’s no public services safety net, universal credit is hardly enough to live on…….

Let’s say a politician believes a socialist agenda will solve all those problems…..


How do you think that’ll work out

Since the 70's anyway
 
Just read a load of her tweets. Some good sense there, but that's not enough. She comes across to me as an old style stereotypical "pay the workers more" person. An easy populist tactic but I don't think many would readily trust her with much of strategic signficance. She may be able to run the department of payouts, but who runs the economy?

Looked her up:
Not the greatest strategic decision perhaps, was leaving school aged 16 whilst pregnant and without any qualifications. Since then she has done one NVQ level 2. (About one gcse). I'd be more impressed if she'd done an OU degree in Politics and Economics, say.

A degree doesn't mean someone doesn't know what they are doing. To me it sounds like she has real world experience, unlike most in politics (even labour) who are brought up with a silver spoon in there mouth and generally have no idea about the real world and it's issues.

They do have advisers who are well schooled in economics etc, it's rarely the MP that come sup with plans, it's more they are given a number of plans and they pick the one they think most suitable.
 
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