No real alternatives to fossil fuels ..
- Thread starter gasbanni
- Start date
Sponsored Links
- Joined
- 16 Sep 2021
- Messages
- 2,884
- Reaction score
- 30
- Country
Your suffering from brain fade. Is this the first time, or did you have it ounce before?
Don't tell me, there was an alternative to those fossil fuels.
Sponsored Links
no it was not
it was in reaction to a possible oil crisis which would have meant a fuel shortage
Opec were threatening to limit oil supplies
similar caper ( may be ) to the current gas supply issue from Russia ??
What countries? They are all skint.
countries who s economy is based on the export of fossil fuels
oil ?? Will require financial support
?
the west are switching to alternatives apparently so won’t require there oil ???
So, there's no alternative to fossil fuels because you're scared of Russia and Norway, and maybe the Scots.
wtf are you on about
I
Am merely pointing out a potential consequence
take it or leave Transam gives not a jot one way or the other
Scots well good point
The winking emoji at the end of my post was an indication I wasn't being 100% serious
I've been looking at the National Grid document mentioned earlier.
This bit is interesting:
"Statistically the first car in a family does around 37 miles a day on average and any second car covers around 11 miles daily. Understandably people don’t however buy for their average journeys, they buy for the longest ones they do. In reality, when we take longer trips, most of us already do stop for 15 to 20 minutes at a service station to grab a drink and perhaps head to the loo or fill up on petrol or diesel. That would be all the time it takes to power up your EV via the new range of ultra-rapid chargers that are already available. This is why National Grid has proposed the optimum locations for adequate grid capacity to enable others to provide ultra-fast chargers, ensuring that nobody on the strategic road network (motorways and principle dual carriageways) is further than 50 driven miles from ultra-rapid charging. This will give drivers consistency, continuity and therefore confidence that their first or only car can be electric."
This bit is interesting:
"Statistically the first car in a family does around 37 miles a day on average and any second car covers around 11 miles daily. Understandably people don’t however buy for their average journeys, they buy for the longest ones they do. In reality, when we take longer trips, most of us already do stop for 15 to 20 minutes at a service station to grab a drink and perhaps head to the loo or fill up on petrol or diesel. That would be all the time it takes to power up your EV via the new range of ultra-rapid chargers that are already available. This is why National Grid has proposed the optimum locations for adequate grid capacity to enable others to provide ultra-fast chargers, ensuring that nobody on the strategic road network (motorways and principle dual carriageways) is further than 50 driven miles from ultra-rapid charging. This will give drivers consistency, continuity and therefore confidence that their first or only car can be electric."
- Joined
- 22 Aug 2006
- Messages
- 5,392
- Reaction score
- 603
- Country
Those look like the numbers given by the National Grid. They're optimistic, full of 'plans' - wouldn't trust much of what they say. Using averages soon fails, it depends what you're trying to work out
7300 miles per year is very low - I haven't ever done as few as that before Covid.
"New diesel cars cover an average of 12,496 miles in each of their first three years." I found.
That's 40 miles per day, weekdays, for which my size of car needs 20kWh per day, because I don't drive round a test track getting the maximum economy.
Say I'm one of the third or so British households with more than one car and like the majority I have only one offstreet space for charging a car. So I want the effin thing charged in 2-3 hours so the household can swap them round and go to bed today. Now you can't expect me to have to charge it multiple times per week like that.
It's got a 90kWh battery. I need to be able to charge it to the max in case ....
Realistically I need 75 kWh in 2 hrs, fairly often.
So I want a 40kW charger or my virility will be impugned.
I have a 60A panel - I'm going to need three of those.
And so will all the other houses in the square whose owners won't want to be undersized.
That's not going to happen. So somebody run along and tell that silly little Swedish Doom Goblin where to naff orf.
Oh, have you got better, more reliable figures?
Do, please, show us what they are, and how you worked them out.
You wouldn't want people to say your assertions aren't trustworthy, or that you are throwing unsubstantated smears around with no basis in fact.
doesn't add up.
numbers made up by Justin Passin. Wouldn't trust much of what they say.
Sponsored Links
