So when will the Met investigate the party?

[SirGalahad]

If MPs break the law. Judges have the full authority to punish them, but if a judge misinterprets parliaments intentions or frustrates it, then it’s surely right for the elected law makers to correct it.

every government stuffs the lords with their own, that’s why there are so many of them. I’d support a reduction of both MPs and lords along with making lords elected. It’s a terrible model.

Just on that.
From the FT

If you think my reaction is hysterical, let me explain how my concerns started, back in lockdown, when ministers were renewing coronavirus restrictions routinely without reference to parliament. I supported drastic action to protect life and preserve the NHS. But I also worried about the lack of debate on the impact on mental health or the economy, and the fact that MPs were prevented from holding the government to account. The problem wasn’t the Coronavirus Act, which had a two-year expiry date, it was an “emergency procedure” in the Public Health Act that gave ministers the power to make rules simply by declaring that the matter was “urgent”, without consulting anyone or providing any evidence.

It turns out that this public health power has been used no fewer than 91 times in the past 20 months. And it’s not the only “urgent” power on the statute book, according to the Hansard Society. Whitehall is increasingly turning to arcane procedures to rush through policies that may individually sound mundane, but together add up to an assault on democracy by granting sweeping powers to the executive.

Two new reports warn that we are heading into “government by diktat”, because power is drifting away from parliament. Bills are often drafted only in outline, with the important detail left to secondary legislation which can’t be amended and may become law with little or no consideration by parliament. “Henry VIII powers” let ministers repeal or amend acts with little scrutiny. And now, according to a committee of the House of Lords, Whitehall is using guidance and protocols as a form of “disguised legislation” — with legal effect but no oversight.

 

[motorbiking]

What accountability is there in a system where your vote doesn't count and one party can rule for decades.

Make big bold bad decisions are very unlikely to be reversed.

Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

There always needs to be a system of checks and balances and having Ministerial rule by diktat is not one.

This is authoritarian. look at the 18 pages ****y Patel added to the Police Bill.

Tell me how is that protecting our democracy and freedoms?

Eventually they screw up and someone ousts them on a change agenda. They have PR in Germany and nothing ever changes. Merkel was wielding power for nearly 20 years and was chancellor for most of that time.

 

[Tigercubrider]

The whole point of creating the Supreme Court was to remove any hint of collaboration between the Legislature (i.e Law Lords sitting in the upper house) and the Judiciary.
So you have the Executive, Legislative and Judicial Arms.

If the Government propose legislation, it is up to them to word it clearly and Parliament to be able to suggest amendments, before passing.
Should the Government pass into law something badly worded or open to interpretation, it is their fault if the Judiciary take that law and apply it as it was written.
Judges don't really consider what was intended, they interpret what was passed.
If the Government don't like that their legislation is found wanting, because it was poorly drafted, they should pass a new piece of law.
The Government should never be allowed to over rule a Judicial Decision because they disagree. They should simply pass a new law to clarify their intent.

We also have the ECHR to consider

 

[cwhaley]

This - the breakdown of democracy in the UK - is such an important issue that I think gets too little discussion. I've long said we're barely a democracy -- no written constitution, no bill of rights, etc., but the actions of this party (now guided by a second un-elected leader) are dangerous when you really look at what's happening. You can't really get a gauge of it from the general media, which is unfortunately the source of news for most people.

If more of us knew, I doubt we'd do anything anyway. We're too placid and complacent for change.

 

[SirGalahad]

Well Boris has chosen Simon Case to head up the inquiry but they are not confirming whether he attended the party.

The coverup and lies continue.

Reports are that there were three parties and

"Boris Johnson's spokesman says the Cabinet Secretary will *only* investigate the alleged Downing Street party on December 18th, which the prime minister did not attend, and not any other party, including the one he reportedly *did* attend."

So this party that they said never took place will be investigated by someone who may or may not have attended the party but they wont investigate any other parties that may or may not have taken place.

This would be out of a comedy sketch but its real life.

Vote for a clown get a circus.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

Why is anybody surprised about this party? One of the reasons I know that covid is a massive scam is that the government, who created the scam, haven't followed their own rules from the start - about mask wearing and travel restrictions etc. Having the information and insider knowledge that they do, if the disease was as bad as they are telling us, none of them would venture out of their mansions.

 

[Notch7]

Why is anybody surprised about this party? One of the reasons I know that covid is a massive scam is that the government, who created the scam, haven't followed their own rules from the start - about mask wearing and travel restrictions etc. Having the information and insider knowledge that they do, if the disease was as bad as they are telling us, none of them would venture out of their mansions.

You seem to have forgotten Johnson was in hospital with it.

seriously Andy, you need to go and speak to a nurse that works on an acute Covid ward, ask them what it’s like to care for people with Covid or what it’s like to have Covid.

I bet every single Covid sceptic would sh1t themselves if they went around a Covid ward and saw for themselves. I guarantee you would too.

 

[Deleted member 18243]

Nigel is angry, says it's the beginning of the end of Boris Johnson.

 

[Trazor]

One of the reasons I know that covid is a massive scam

Nutter alert.

 

[transam]

People snuff in it coming across the channel

snuffing it from the Chinese virus

Violent crime on the increase

terrorists

and now top it all off is some party
A year ago at no 10

And there are some fruit cakes who are in complete and utter shock over the caper

oh dear best they lay down take a tablet
Seek therapy

 

[Justin Passing]

Met is not investigating. They say : Lack of evidence, too long ago to pursue that sort of thing (paraphrasing). Shame on them.

 

[ellal]

Met is not investigating. They say : Lack of evidence, too long ago to pursue that sort of thing (paraphrasing). Shame on them.

"The Met has had discussions with the Cabinet Office in relation to the investigation by the cabinet secretary. If any evidence is found as a result of that investigation, it will be passed to the Met for further consideration."

Those accused provide the 'evidence' from an internal 'investigation'...

Well we all know that any 'evidence' will be buried...

And why would the Met have 'discussions' not interviews under caution'?

Oh that's right, some are above the law!

 

[Deleted member 18243]

You seem to have forgotten Johnson was in hospital with it.

You lot never believe anything that idiot says except when it suits you!

seriously Andy, you need to go and speak to a nurse that works on an acute Covid ward, ask them what it’s like to care for people with Covid or what it’s like to have Covid.
.

(With respect) people are dying in hopsitals as they always have. Overall death rates, the true indicator of a pandemic, are not significantly higher than normal.

I bet every single Covid sceptic would sh1t themselves if they went around a Covid ward and saw for themselves. I guarantee you would too.

The brainwashing has worked well on you ; you are like Jack Nicholson at the end of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest.

Andy 11 for the nine o clock news, in the pub, Not Dead Yet.

 

[transam]

Waste of money

jeez us have not plod got more pressing things to investigate

other than some party at no 10

and some video of some people with out a mask

 

[fillyboy]

If the Government propose legislation, it is up to them to word it clearly and Parliament to be able to suggest amendments, before passing.
Should the Government pass into law something badly worded or open to interpretation, it is their fault if the Judiciary take that law and apply it as it was written.
Judges don't really consider what was intended, they interpret what was passed.

The danger is when the Judiciary take that law, and apply it as to what they think it ought to be. Miller II is a good illustration.