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Apparently the Humanitarian is a man married to another man. He talks often about his husband and has stated that he is a man although he also says he doesn't mind women as long as they are good looking and between the ages of 23 and 36. Or fit men. So that's cleared that up then. (n)
It’s Angle .
 
Pretty sure your right. Funny how they converse with each other. :LOL:
The ‘dumbing itself down’ is the funny bit.
The 99.9% perfect spelling and punctuation. But can’t spell Mcenroe.
He’s not the only one ,there’s one posting and replying on building etc who creates his own problems to answer using new usernames.
Quite pathetic.
 
Pretty sure your right. Funny how they converse with each other. :LOL:

I find it a right giggle but it must be pitiful being Himmi and the like. There's few on here who "talk to themselves".
 
An increasing number of people won't be happy until everything is vanilla. If we've to include everybody in everything and no longer have categories and obvious differences (e.g. Brits doing away with best male and female which was largely instigated by one person ...) what we end up with is a vanilla society. Everything the same. Nobody offended. Job done.

It's getting to be the case that if you state facts e.g. females are generally not as physically strong as males you get slated as being sexist. For stating a fact.

In my world, here's a fact. Pro swimming should have a from birth male category, from birth female category and ... to keep everyone happy ... a m>f trans category and f>m trans category. Surely that keeps any competitive advantage as similar as possible between the categories? Instead of having farcical situations where a 'woman' wins by a proverbial country mile.

Yes some people on both sides of these arguments are 'ist', the law of averages deals with that. However for most, the frustration comes from the illogicalness of these situations.

In short, it's becoming a feckin' joke ...
 
I disagree. Women have always seekd equality and this is their chance. After all, the TG people are doing nothing against the law and therefore IMO
if it is victimisation. The governing bodies really need to grow backbones and make a firm decision to stop this nonesense.
Body fat %age - Men will win
Muscle Mass - Men will win
Vo2Max - men will win
physical size - men will win
Hemoglobin - men will win

Real women are screwed on every possible level that counts in competitive athletic sport.
Vo2Max differences alone give men a 10-25% advantage, in any sport that requires rapid delivery of O2 to muscles.
Add in the fact that women carry significantly more body fat necessary to function and they can never be in a position to win on a level playing field.
 
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For their 'own good' and so as not to further setback equality for women, things like grid girls were banned by many major racing organisations.

What about women that enjoyed doing that job?

What if they're not that great academically?

Oh yeah that's right, go stack shelfs in Asda as it's the more moral thing to do ...
 
When Mrs Mottie was at school, they had a mock house and the girls were taught how to clean and iron! Once a week, they had to prepare and cook a meal for the headmaster to sample.
 
When Mrs Mottie was at school, they had a mock house and the girls were taught how to clean and iron! Once a week, they had to prepare and cook a meal for the headmaster to sample.

Same here, girls did cookery, boys did woodwork, and all was well in the world.
 
I totally understand and 100% agree men can't/shouldn't compete in womens sport, but can women compete in Mens sport ? if a woman footballer was good enough could she play in the premiership? don't see why she should not be allowed.

There is some sports (super endurance stuff) where women can out perform men
 
I totally understand and 100% agree men can't/shouldn't compete in womens sport, but can women compete in Mens sport ? if a woman footballer was good enough could she play in the premiership? don't see why she should not be allowed.

There is some sports (super endurance stuff) where women can out perform men
I'm happy to stand corrected but, other than maybe a very few, surely they would be outclassed by most men on the field in terms of endurance, not necessarily skill.
 
I'm happy to stand corrected but, other than maybe a very few, surely they would be outclassed by most men on the field in terms of endurance, not necessarily skill.
I don't disagree with that statement, but my question still remains, if a woman come along and did have the ability, is their any rule that says she could not play.
 
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