neighbours noisy plumbing

[Old Salt]

The OP’s place is rented, after 5 pages of helpful comments of how to rectify the situation the OP either needs to put some of them in action or move out and be rid of the problem.

 

[Diver Fred]

The OP really needs to get his LandLord advised of the issue and their help. When the LL does his regular checks he needs to make them aware of the noise issue.
If necessary write to the LL making them aware of the situation and ask for their support and involvement in resolving the problem - it could be the offending neighbour is aware the OP is renting and therefore will not acknowledge any direct communication from the tenant.

As a LL myself I'd be most unhappy if a tenant has not made me aware of the issue before contacting EH and tried to resolve it themselves. Noise is one of the hazards that should be checked for.

One other thought - is the neighbour on a Water Meter and does the OP have a mains water feed into the loft? If so the plumbing work have connected into the OPs rising main bypassing the neighbours rising main?

 

[FlatulentFreddie]

How so?

By his landlord evicting him for interference with utilities that he has no right to interfere with

 

[transam]

Mind you no one accept the OP has heard the said noise

And some people gripe about not a lot ???

Assume said water supply is not a shared mains ??

One pipe serving more than one prop ?

 

[denso13]

By his landlord evicting him for interference with utilities that he has no right to interfere with

Don't be silly, his neighbour isn't a tenant and his landlord has no say.

 

[Bod ...]

I do appreciate your frustration, both with your problem of the noise nuisance, and the assumption that you might be racist.
Don't take much notice of MynameisBod, he frequently tries to argue that there is racist issue where there isn't. And he frequently denies that there is a racism issue when there so evidently is.

You jump the gun again. I was merely asking is this the case after reading Stephens post.


Notsure won't need too much reading of your posts to realise your a messer.

would like to gently point out that you're making a number of assumptions, based on her lack of response to communication with you, and based on the differences between the two of you in your ethnicities or racial identities or sexualities or cultures or whatever it is.
You're assuming she's hostile, you're assuming she's happy with the situation, and you're assuming she doesn't care.

If you pause and think about those assumptions, you can see how they don't hang together.

I do still hold out hope that you can sort this out together, and I wish you both well.

Notsure be careful what you say to this person as they will jump on you for any anything.

I'm going to repeat myself, yet again:

Patronising dildo

 

[FlatulentFreddie]

Don't be silly, his neighbour isn't a tenant and his landlord has no say.

Don't be silly dunso

 

[Pat ex]

Patronising dildo

That's quite a compliment, I know exactly how to treat **** like you.
Seriously, had you been trying to think of an insult for 3 hours since you first posted your comment, and that was the best you could manage?

 

[Bod ...]

I'm going to repeat myself, yet again:

That's quite a compliment, I know exactly how to treat **** like you.
Seriously, had you been trying to think of an insult for 3 hours since you first posted your comment, and that was the best you could manage?

Bear in mind it is a Sunday...

I did try.... I thought of Sausage or wally then a Savaloy.... Cucumber I thought to be too soft... carrot maybe?
I thought long & hard but I
couldn't think of anything other than Dildo that represented a Penis and not just any Penis......a complete Penis. All considered I went for Dildo.

 

[notsure123]

The OP really needs to get his LandLord advised of the issue and their help. When the LL does his regular checks he needs to make them aware of the noise issue.
If necessary write to the LL making them aware of the situation and ask for their support and involvement in resolving the problem - it could be the offending neighbour is aware the OP is renting and therefore will not acknowledge any direct communication from the tenant.

As a LL myself I'd be most unhappy if a tenant has not made me aware of the issue before contacting EH and tried to resolve it themselves. Noise is one of the hazards that should be checked for.

One other thought - is the neighbour on a Water Meter and does the OP have a mains water feed into the loft? If so the plumbing work have connected into the OPs rising main bypassing the neighbours rising main?

Hi, thanks for your input. could i please ask if you could explain what your last paragraph means . I dont really have a clue about plumbing...but i do know that my shower etc is connected from the loft...and i think the mains water feed is into the loft....however, i am a bungalow attached to her house.....so my loft is nowhere near hers. I dont know if she is on a water metre but the amount of water she runs you would think not!! the noise from her house when she runs her taps seems to pour `down` into my bungalow from higher up....
My landlord is a housing association and as such i am not sure they would care as much as a private, individual landlord but might have more clout if they thought it all unacceptable. (i do sense....assumptions again, that the neighbour feels she can do as she wish as i dont actually own my home)....

i find it interesting that since the letter from EH she has barely run her taps.......she probably knows that EH might ask for a diary of the noise etc.....but it isnt the solution to just not use them whilst EH are involved as it isnt fixing the problem......The very first time i dropped a line she stopped running them as much....but in time it all crept up again until it was full on again and it goes on and on round and around in circles. She totally knows there is a problem or she would not be `not` running them.....

I think that a workman once said that the plumbing etc runs right through all these properties.....i am sorry if i sound stupid and naive and am talking nonsense but i truly dont understand anything about it all.....i personally think she has had her new plumbing put in from just inside her front door...and it runs right along her halway and up......the clicking by the front door jsut before her taps come on......i mentioned this in one of my notes, that i here this clicking noise in the hall and think, `cue taps`.......

Her house was originally owned by the HA and these little bungalows semi detached/attached to her house were built with nothing in her hallway section (just her stairs)....literally it is front door......hallway running down and back door......lounge just to the left of front door and kitchen door off the lounge........so these small bungalows had no noise from the house attached as there was nothing there....no living area...no doors etc......and i heard literally not a sound before she had this plumbing.....i have spoken to a couple of other people living in these bungalows and none fo them hear a thing from that side....you might hear no more than going up and down the stairs.....(and nearly all the attached houses have bought and refurbed etc.....so probably new bathrooms etc and none with this god awful noise...

i am of course totally `peed` off with the fact that until she came along and put in her ludicrous plumbing i had peace and quiet.......if she wanted to put a shower in as i know the previous owner didnt have a shower, could it not surely have been fed from the existing bathroom plumbing.....she has come along and installed plumbing right along that previously `quiet section`......stuck a washing machine there (her kitchen is quite big enough to take a washing machine.......had the plumbing there for one etc.......and maybe tracked that plumbing into the wall up the stairs......i did say in my second note to her - this is my living space right along that wall.........i am completely so annoyed at what she has done......idiot!!!

 

[Diver Fred]

So - can you get into your loft? If you can get up there (with a torch) and have look at the adjoining wall to the noisy neighbour to see if there is any pipes passing through the wall, or even a hole. If there is a pipe passing through. check to see where it connects on your side and does it look recent.

I still believe you should contact the LL, HA's are usually more interested and have 'more teeth' than small time landlords. Check your agreement.

I'd question why the HA hasn't done a premises check recently if you haven't seen them.

 

[notsure123]

So - can you get into your loft? If you can get up there (with a torch) and have look at the adjoining wall to the noisy neighbour to see if there is any pipes passing through the wall, or even a hole. If there is a pipe passing through. check to see where it connects on your side and does it look recent.

I still believe you should contact the LL, HA's are usually more interested and have 'more teeth' than small time landlords. Check your agreement.

I'd question why the HA hasn't done a premises check recently if you haven't seen them.

thank you

 

[mizuno]

my phone wont send videos for some reason........the noise is literally, literally the noise of running a tap.....when i put my taps on they make a noise until they hit full flow.....a shhhhhh noise.....this is the noise that i hear but its far louder than the noise i have running my own taps - it also sounds a bit harsher

You could upload the video to Youtube, set it to unlisted and share the link here. Or upload it to something like Google Drive and share the link

 

[TapLady]

I have exactly the same problem with my neighbour's taps and plumbing and with the neighbour's response - I believe the problem is amplification in the party wall. The pipes have been attached to the wall and the wall acts like an amplifier when anything is drilled into it, etc. I live in a tiny converted chapel - the outer walls are 2ft thick stone but the party wall is 200 mm grey cement bricks. I bought my half in 2003 - I like how it was converted and have not made that many alterations, it is similar to the submitted plans (living area upstairs, sleeping area downstairs because of light issues, etc). The other side was rented out for a few years until someone bought it in 2015 and decided to renovate - it was living hell and I learned that anything that is drilled, hacked, or hammered into the party wall is 'loud' - for instance, you can vaguely hear a drill start-up on the other side... then when it goes into the party wall - holy Moses - like a jet plane taking off. They moved a shower room right next to my living space a couple of years ago. My living space is only 4 meters wide - theirs is only 4 meters wide too. I cannot hear the toilet that is against the party wall but the pipes and taps to the sink are far louder than my taps - it is annoying as hell. The thing is the people next-door are not prepared to compromise by moving the pipes, etc - that would be way too helpful. Does anybody know anything about party walls that amplify like this and how to get rid of this problem from my side?

 

[notsure123]

I have exactly the same problem with my neighbour's taps and plumbing and with the neighbour's response - I believe the problem is amplification in the party wall. The pipes have been attached to the wall and the wall acts like an amplifier when anything is drilled into it, etc. I live in a tiny converted chapel - the outer walls are 2ft thick stone but the party wall is 200 mm grey cement bricks. I bought my half in 2003 - I like how it was converted and have not made that many alterations, it is similar to the submitted plans (living area upstairs, sleeping area downstairs because of light issues, etc). The other side was rented out for a few years until someone bought it in 2015 and decided to renovate - it was living hell and I learned that anything that is drilled, hacked, or hammered into the party wall is 'loud' - for instance, you can vaguely hear a drill start-up on the other side... then when it goes into the party wall - holy Moses - like a jet plane taking off. They moved a shower room right next to my living space a couple of years ago. My living space is only 4 meters wide - theirs is only 4 meters wide too. I cannot hear the toilet that is against the party wall but the pipes and taps to the sink are far louder than my taps - it is annoying as hell. The thing is the people next-door are not prepared to compromise by moving the pipes, etc - that would be way too helpful. Does anybody know anything about party walls that amplify like this and how to get rid of this problem from my side?

I so sympathise with you and especially as your home sounds so lovely....not somewhere you would want to move from...It sounds exactly like my problem.......in fact i think perhaps my loft area makes the noise louder as its a big empty loft.

i hope that somebody can come up with something for you.....as its not a huge area would it be worth you paying for insulation - although you would lose a little bit of space in doing so. I think that if i owned this and absolutely loved living here i would have to resort to insulation.

it is so so selfish of our neighbours to be unprepared to do anything.