Ukraine counter offensive

[motorbiking]

It isn't a simple statistic of tonnage of equipment:

Ukraine war: Questions over France's weapons supply to Kyiv

Paris's relative absence in its supply of weapons to Ukraine leaves eastern European countries wary.

www.bbc.com

So France has given 25% of its Caesars.
You can only give what you have available to give, without leaving yourself short of equipment that is equally as needed.

Its almost like Putin was leading us all in to a false sense of security.

But the argument

defence officials say the true measure of military help is quality not quantity.

..Sounds a bit like an excuse

they are in the top 5 world arms producers - its simply not good enough and I'm afraid smacks of doing as little as they can get away with.

 

[transam]

Negotiations will ensue in due course

Even if the ukraines take back the
Annexed areas entirely the Russians will continue to support an insurgency

Plus they will not be driven out of the crimea

That was lost in 2014

 

[transam]

Traffic jam of Thousands of cars attempting to get into Georgia from Russia due to the fear of Putins conscription / mobalisation

24 / 48 hour que

 

[bernardgreen]

Three new recruits

https://twitter.com/x/status/1576862395862876161

Hopefully this is fake news

 

[Justin Passing]

Negotiations will ensue in due course

Even if the ukraines take back the
Annexed areas entirely the Russians will continue to support an insurgency

Plus they will not be driven out of the crimea

That was lost in 2014

Yeah but, no but,...
there is precedent. Wiki
The USSR transferred Crimea to Ukraine on the 300th anniversary of the Pereyaslav Treaty in 1954. After Ukrainian independence in 1991 the central government and Crimea clashed, culminating in Ukraine forcibly bringing Crimea under control. The Soviet fleet in Crimea was also in contention but a 1997 treaty allowed Russia to continue basing its fleet in Sevastopol. In 2014 pro-Russians seized control, organizing a referendum supporting Russian annexation, but most countries recognize Crimea as Ukrainian.

 

[transam]

Yeah but, no but,...
there is precedent. Wiki
The USSR transferred Crimea to Ukraine on the 300th anniversary of the Pereyaslav Treaty in 1954. After Ukrainian independence in 1991 the central government and Crimea clashed, culminating in Ukraine forcibly bringing Crimea under control. The Soviet fleet in Crimea was also in contention but a 1997 treaty allowed Russia to continue basing its fleet in Sevastopol. In 2014 pro-Russians seized control, organizing a referendum supporting Russian annexation, but most countries recognize Crimea as Ukrainian.

So what

There is no way Putin will give up the Crimea

China / Tibet ??

 

[JohnD]

"A Czech crowdfunding campaign has raised more than £1.2m to buy a modernised tank for the Ukrainian army to help it defend against Russia’s invasion."

Thomas the Tank.

 

[Pat ex]

Its almost like Putin was leading us all in to a false sense of security.

But the argument

..Sounds a bit like an excuse

they are in the top 5 world arms producers - its simply not good enough and I'm afraid smacks of doing as little as they can get away with.

The contribution of arms to Ukraine, or anywhere else is not released by France. They made an exception with the Caesars.
So any media article claiming to know how much France has contributed is, by definition, the reporter's estimate.

 

[IT Minion]

topical news:

France will deliver to Ukraine 8 CAESAR howitzers in 8x8 configuration

According to information published by the French Newspaper "Le Monde" website on October 1, 2022, French is ready to deliver to Ukraine six new CAESAR 155m

www.armyrecognition.com

6 rounds a minute and very long ranged. Cutting edge kit.

 

[Odds]

topical news:

France will deliver to Ukraine 8 CAESAR howitzers in 8x8 configuration

According to information published by the French Newspaper "Le Monde" website on October 1, 2022, French is ready to deliver to Ukraine six new CAESAR 155m

www.armyrecognition.com

6 rounds a minute and very long ranged. Cutting edge kit.

Eight doesn't sound very many to me. Can we assume the French are going to send the ammo as well?

 

[IT Minion]

Eight doesn't sound very many to me. Can we assume the French are going to send the ammo as well?

It uses the standard NATO rounds.

8 isn't many, but these are to Tube artillery as HIMARS II are to MRLS. They are some of the best SPGs around. With the longest range rounds they can almost match HIMARS.

 

[noseall]

Three new recruits

https://twitter.com/x/status/1576862395862876161

Hopefully this is fake news

Looks like a regular Friday evening gathering at the local Redneck range in the Deep South.

 

[Justin Passing]

So what

There is no way Putin will give up the Crimea

China / Tibet ??

So Putin may , get shot, or , or, or, or....

He's problably on a stronger wicket than Truss, but he's not forever.
CHina Tibet wot?

 

[transam]

So Putin may , get shot, or , or, or, or....

He's problably on a stronger wicket than Truss, but he's not forever.
CHina Tibet wot?

China. Never gave up Tibet a country they invaded in what ?? The 50s ????

Doubt there is any danger of truss being bumped off by her own party

Putin is between a rock and a hard place


Or or or or or or ?????

 

[JohnD]

Traffic jam of Thousands of cars attempting to get into Georgia from Russia due to the fear of Putins conscription / mobalisation

24 / 48 hour que

Russia has a demographic problem, with a large proportion of its population being around retirement age, especially the skilled men in the armaments factories.

Many of the bright young people with foreign languages and marketable skills have already left the country.

Putin's conscription, and the large number of men who have fled to avoid it, has greatly diminished the number of people of working age.

This does not help productivity.