Because no one wanted it at the border, but that is where it should be if the UK is committed to a full "take back control of borders" brexhit. That is now being picked up by nad doris and the right wing of the dup.
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You must have your reasons for hammering home your clueless as to the content of my posts.
How many times do we have remind you what is written in the good friday agreement?
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OK so I get most of it - seems a reasonable mechanism. So what's Boris actually moaning about?
Is the EU claiming governance on what's produced in NI? Electrical goods, say, if they wanted to put their own standards/tariffs on some of that?
IF the EU is saying thet they want NI produced stuff to be marked as EU compliant/NON EU compliant, and with a mechanism to be sure tariffs get paid if it goes for export to he EU, then that seems fair enough.
Effectively that's pushing the border back to the manufacturer's gates. Worth it for peace I'd have thought.
Is the EU claiming governance on what's produced in NI? Electrical goods, say, if they wanted to put their own standards/tariffs on some of that?
IF the EU is saying thet they want NI produced stuff to be marked as EU compliant/NON EU compliant, and with a mechanism to be sure tariffs get paid if it goes for export to he EU, then that seems fair enough.
Effectively that's pushing the border back to the manufacturer's gates. Worth it for peace I'd have thought.
Many brexiteers have said that they don't care about peace in NI !
He hates Sunak and is looking for any way to destabilise him, to fulfil his dream (destiny in his own mind) of becoming PM again.
The DUP and ERG seem to be building an argument that if Northern Ireland is still bound by EU regulations on goods, this stops the rest of the UK diverging from EU rules, and as a result the full benefits of Brexit can't be exploited. Johnson seems to have decided to hop on board. Expect to hear lots about divergence over the next couple of weeks. I don't really understand the argument. Are they saying that if the rest of the UK can produce goods to a lower standard, they will be cheaper and they will be able to export more to other countries? But then they won't be able to export the goods to the EU. It seems pretty complicated.
I think this particular agreement is more about standards than tariffs. And it makes a distinction between agri-foods and manufactured goods. Under this agreement, UK standard agri-foods would be able to go from GB to NI, as long as they don't pass into the EU. But with manufactured goods, only EU standard goods would be able to go from GB to NI. I've been using this really useful cheat sheet (they have included the section on agri-foods twice which was confusing at first).
https://www.instituteforgovernment.org.uk/explainer/windsor-framework
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Part of the deal is Britain can reduce vat on immovable objects such as wind farms but anything that is transportable across the border reverts to eu vat rates.
Actually the trade deal (TCA) Johnson agreed with the EU requires the UK to stay in alignment in terms of level playing field and state aid.
The reason is because if say the UK chose to have very low standards on environment, workers rights etc, then it could in theory undercut the EU, in that situation the EU have the right to impose tariffs
40% of UK exports go to the EU, so Im not sure what benefits there are for regulatory divergence.
the reason the the wealthy backers of brexit want divergence is so they can land lucrative deals with USA etc + lower standards in the UK. That only benefits the rich not the general public
It’s all very simple imo
Rules have been changed ref the original agreement
So now it’s now much easier for one part of the UK To trade with another part of the UK with out having a bunch of EU pencil pushers whinging about a sausage
It’s now actually possible for some one to travel from NI to the UK go into a co op buy a pack of sausages and take them home back to NI without fear of committing a criminal act
Rules have been changed ref the original agreement
So now it’s now much easier for one part of the UK To trade with another part of the UK with out having a bunch of EU pencil pushers whinging about a sausage
It’s now actually possible for some one to travel from NI to the UK go into a co op buy a pack of sausages and take them home back to NI without fear of committing a criminal act
Could you tell us whether such an act was or wasn't a 'criminal act' before brexit?
So what has been gained?
Of course if said sausages ( in the case of brexiteers they'd obviously be mini cocktail ones) were to then break End User Licence laws and enter the EU what would be the consequences?
Richie Rich Sunak's 'deal' doesn't sit at all well with the good friday agreement...
As with the Hancock cock ups there will be consequences revealed and the whole thing is open to widespread corruption/fraud...
Why do you think smogg moved a lot of his operations to the Republic of Ireland?
You seem to have an unhealthy interest in Brexiteers sausages. Why is that?
Could you tell us whether such an act was or wasn't a 'criminal act' before brexit?
So what has been gained?
Of course if said sausages ( in the case of brexiteers they'd obviously be mini cocktail ones) were to then break End User Licence laws and enter the EU what would be the consequences?
Richie Rich Sunak's 'deal' doesn't sit at all well with the good friday agreement...
As with the Hancock cock ups there will be consequences revealed and the whole thing is open to widespread corruption/fraud...
Why do you think smogg moved a lot of his operations to the Republic of Ireland?
Try Googling all the relevant info will be in there ?
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