Richard Tice and Isobel Oakshott move to Dubai

[carmanmemoranda]

I'll just accept it thanks. 20-30 years I'll be outta here ...

Yes, head in the sand.

I prefer to change, even if it takes years

 

[diy_fun_uk]

Yes, head in the sand.

I prefer to change, even if it takes years

Good luck with that

 

[Notch7]

I'll just accept it thanks. 20-30 years I'll be outta here ...

Don’t bother commenting on here then.

Off you go

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Good luck with that

This country never used to be so divisive.

Things do change

 

[Mottie]

If you are moaning that people arriving in small boats don't pay tax, then you must be wanting the rules changes so they can work.

Nah. I want skilled and trained workers who we decide we need to come over. We've got enough spongers of our own.

 

[motorbiking]

And still want all the benefits of your nation

As long as you don't have to pay for them

What would be the point of leaving to a tax haven, if they aren’t paying lots of tax?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

What would be the point of leaving to a tax haven, if they aren’t paying lots of tax?

So you do want all the benefits of the host nation?

 

[Notch7]

Nah. I want skilled and trained workers who we decide we need to come over. We've got enough spongers of our own.

“We’ve got enough spongers of our own”

You mean people benefits because they have a disability, or maybe mental health issues due to domestic violence, or the 750,000 people who can’t work because they are on an NHS waiting list or people with a progressive illness like MS, or people with a terminal illness.

You mean those sort of spongers.

 

[motorbiking]

So you do want all the benefits of the host nation?

Most leave for a few years to build a “pension” with the view to come back after.

Typically these are people in the top 1% of earners who pay 100-250k tax each year which is more than most people pay in a lifetime.

 

[Mottie]

“We’ve got enough spongers of our own”

You mean people benefits because they have a disability, or maybe mental health issues due to domestic violence, or the 750,000 people who can’t work because they are on an NHS waiting list or people with a progressive illness like MS, or people with a terminal illness.

You mean those sort of spongers.

No, Don't be so pathetically bloody stupid. They are not spongers. They are our own people in need of help. Are you trying to put words in my mouth?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Most leave for a few years to build a “pension” with the view to come back after.

Typically these are people in the top 1% of earners who pay 100-250k tax each year which is more than most people pay in a lifetime.

So you do want all the benefits of the host nation ?
It's a simple yes, or no.

 

[motorbiking]

I live in the U.K. I tolerate the taxes I have to pay (just). It wouldn’t take much for me to reconsider. I’m explaining to you why others go.

Would I feel that I was getting the benefits of my nation without paying? No. I’ve paid millions in my working life already.

 

[noseall]

Liar. You imagined this.

Sorry my mistake.
You said something similar previously regards people fleeing after the election. I apologise for the timeline mistake.

Perhaps you could clarify?

 

[diy_fun_uk]

This country never used to be so divisive.

Things do change

And what's caused that?

 

[Notch7]

No, Don't be so pathetically bloody stupid. They are not spongers. They are our own people in need of help. Are you trying to put words in my mouth?

You used the word “spongers” you didn’t clarify who you meant.

By the time you take out the groups I mentioned, there’s only a tiny subset of people left….is it that tiny % you are talking about!