Yet another asylum seeker says 'Thank you' in their own special way to the country that accepted them

[carmanmemoranda]

We're f****d?

Not yet.

But it's possible in the not too distant future

 

[Notch7]

We're f****d?

The Americans are, they’ve just voted in a c***t

 

[Mottie]

brexshit f*cked the UK...

With russian money funding to also f*ck Europe...

It was f*cking obvious where this would lead...

But the RW loonies just want rid of 'immigrants', because according to their screwed up thinking the 'foreigners' are to blame for everything!

Of course the RW loonies won't be the first in line for the inevitable fight that is to come

Send all those that want citizenship in the U.K. out to Ukraine to help the war effort. Those that come out of it alive can get extra points added to their asylum application. See how many want to fight for the country they are so determined to live in.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Send all those that want citizenship in the U.K. out to Ukraine to help the war effort. Those that come out of it alive can get extra points added to their asylum application. See how many want to fight for the country they are so determined to live in.

Ever done your service mottie?

Whether it involved actual life and death fighting, or not.

 

[MNW67]

Why do you consider Tommy Robinson to be far right?

I thought that was generally accepted as his place on the political spectrum.

I'm interested because I used to think the same until I stopped taking the media's word for it.

I'm interested too, now! It will be a lot more useful if you explain why he is different to the normal public perception rather me just reiterating everything we know already.

First of all one has to agree on what 'far right' is or isn't.

I have been reading up a bit and would be interested in discussing this further if you are OK with that

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Far right.

Wiki seems to cover it fairly well....


This political spectrum situates itself on the far end of the right, distinguished from more mainstream right-wing ideologies by its opposition to liberal democratic norms and emphasis on exclusivist views. Far-right ideologies have historically included fascism, Nazism, and Falangism, while contemporary manifestations also incorporate neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, white supremacy, and various other movements characterized by chauvinism, xenophobia, and theocratic or reactionary beliefs.

 

[MNW67]

Far right.

Wiki seems to cover it fairly well....


This political spectrum situates itself on the far end of the right, distinguished from more mainstream right-wing ideologies by its opposition to liberal democratic norms and emphasis on exclusivist views. Far-right ideologies have historically included fascism, Nazism, and Falangism, while contemporary manifestations also incorporate neo-fascism, neo-Nazism, white supremacy, and various other movements characterized by chauvinism, xenophobia, and theocratic or reactionary beliefs.

So would Reform be a far right party?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

So would Reform be a far right party?

I don't think there's any doubt is there ?

 

[MNW67]

I don't think there's any doubt is there ?

So how would you fit Reform into the Wiki definition above?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

So how would you fit Reform into the Wiki definition above?

Xenophobia alone puts them there

 

[MNW67]

Xenophobia alone puts them there

Would you also describe Tommy Robinson, BNP etc. as far-right. And how would you distinguish them from Reform.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Would you also describe Tommy Robinson, BNP etc. as far-right. And how would you distinguish them from Reform.

Yes.

Not much different.

 

[Notch7]

So would Reform be a far right party?

The populist right, you have to dig a bit deeper to find the far right connections

Farage has lots of connections to the far right across Europe, such as Afd.

Farage shared stage with far-right Austrian leader who opposes Russian sanctions | Good Law Project

Farage spoke at the pro-Trump Heartland Institute, sharing a stage with Harald Vilimsky – a senior figure in Austria’s far-right who opposes sanctions on Putin’s Russia.

goodlawproject.org

Tommy Robinson might not be pushing overt far right agenda, but he is a poster boy for the far right and he gets funding indirectly from various far right groups across USA and Europe

Revealed: the hidden global network behind Tommy Robinson

Guardian investigation shows how cash, legal support and millions of tweets underpin anti-Islam activist

www.theguardian.com

 

[Ihavenojob]

So would Reform be a far right party?

The socialist state controlled main stream media are so far left that the Lib Dems are probably deemed far right.

 

[MNW67]

The socialist state controlled main stream media are so far left that the Lib Dems are probably deemed far right.

The BBC call Reform "right wing" I think. On just one occasion they said "far right" but then made a retraction.