J D Vance. Munich speech.

[MNW67]

Silent prayer is peaceful.

It is meant to intimidate. Why can't they just keep 150m away?

 

[denso13]

Just stay 150m away. Why is that such a problem?

Or come back after 7pm, when the exclusion zone time ends, like he was advised, but refused.

 

[MNW67]

Or come back after 7pm, when the exclusion zone time ends, like he was advised, but refused.

It is almost as if he had a different agenda?

 

[Deleted member 265726]

It is meant to intimidate. Why can't they just keep 150m away?

Do you understand where one person ends and another person begins? Does the silent prayer travel through the ether?

 

[Highway Man]

It is almost as if he had a different agenda?

A different agenda in what way? Praying is praying and the only agenda would be a prayer, although I would imagine the content of the prayer might have an agenda sway.

 

[denso13]

A different agenda in what way?

He was trying to intimidate. People can pray anywhere, but he deliberately choose to do it in an abortion clinic safe zone.

 

[MNW67]

Do you understand where one person ends and another person begins? Does the silent prayer travel through the ether?

These women are going through a traumatic experience. These campaigners are wanting to dissuade them from going ahead with an abortion by standing outside the clinic, using "prayer" as an excuse. I say leave these women alone. It is so simple. Why do they want to pray at that exact spot. There are millions and millions of other spaces in the country where they can pray.

 

[Highway Man]

He was trying to intimidate. People can pray anywhere, but he deliberately choose to do it in an abortion clinic safe zone.

this is the sort of reply I was wanting, not insult throwing or trying to make yourself look clever, I now understand in more detail of this case and have actually learnt something through normal lines of communication.

 

[Deleted member 265726]

These women are going through a traumatic experience. These campaigners are wanting to dissuade them from going ahead with an abortion by standing outside the clinic, using "prayer" as an excuse. I say leave these women alone. It is so simple. Why do they want to pray at that exact spot. There are millions and millions of other spaces in the country where they can pray.

So? People on this forum are constantly trying to change my mind, just as you are now, should I exclude you from responding to me because heaven forbid, you think differently to me? Do you think they or you have the power to change my mind because they/you are so powerful?

 

[MNW67]

So? People on this forum are constantly trying to change my mind, just as you are now, should I exclude you from responding to me because heaven forbid, you think differently to me?

You sometimes do

But seriously, I believe these women have made their decision and should be left alone and not be guilt tripped at the last second.

What is your main motivation for supporting the campaigners. Is it a free speech perspective. Or a pro-life perspective. Or something else entirely.

 

[Deleted member 265726]

You sometimes do

But seriously, I believe these women have made their decision and should be left alone and not be guilt tripped at the last second.

What is your main motivation for supporting the campaigners. Is it a free speech perspective. Or a pro-life perspective. Or something else entirely.

Freedom.

 

[MNW67]

Freedom.

That's a very broad concept. There are all sorts of different freedoms to balance. And I suppose that is the crux of the debate.

 

[denso13]

Freedom.

That doesn't come without responsibilities. It can't just be a free for all.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Just stay 150m away. Why is that such a problem?

Basic common decency. Shouldn't be a problem for anybody

 

[blup]

This has to be the only forum that I have come accross that bans you from threads for knowing what you are talking about. Its a really strange concept for a forum.

If so the mods will have to seriously up their game