Bye Bye Gary

Just watched Louis Theroux's bbc documentary about settlers in the conflict zone with Palestine and Israel, looks very toxic for both sides!
I watched it a couple of weeks back. Whilst appreciating the situations are completely different, what I couldn't quite get my head around was this. There appeared to be Jewish people that were almost taking pleasure in their goal to gradually reclaim the area whether by legal means or otherwise, purging Palestinians from the area. There was an old Rabbi (I thought these people were supposed to be caring?) taking great pleasure in taking about 'getting the camel people out of the area.'

It made me think about WWII and what the Jews experienced at the hands of the Nazis. And yet, certainly based on the documentary, here they are trying to force people from an area they have lived in for decades.

Before anyone jumps down my throat, I'm not coming down on one side or the other in this, I fully understand it's a multi-faceted complex issue. However the documentary did make me think 'but your people know what being treated like this feels like?'
 
Motties has never ever noted any sympathy for the thousands of Palestinians that have died in Gaza.........
Boohoo. There you go, will that do ya? Better than those crocodile tears you shed for the unarmed civilian victims of the October 7th attack. In fact, any chance you can show us your sympathetic posts on that day? The day after?
 
Boohoo. There you go, will that do ya? Better than those crocodile tears you shed for the unarmed civilian victims of the October 7th attack. In fact, any chance you can show us your sympathetic posts on that day? The day after?
But you said all was fair in love and war?
 
Lineker, accepted the material was racial / religious hate promoting, something that is illegal in the UK. Hopefully those on this forum wont need reminding. No amount of pretending that Zionism is a political ideology will protect them as I am sure Lineker was told.
 
Lineker, accepted the material was racial / religious hate promoting, something that is illegal in the UK. Hopefully those on this forum wont need reminding. No amount of pretending that Zionism is a political ideology will protect them as I am sure Lineker was told.
Mbk misinterprets the ruling, again:

Employment Tribunal rules that anti-Zionist beliefs are protected under Equality Act​


If anti-Zionism is protected, then Zionism cannot be protected as a characteristic.
All over the world, it is an alarming time to be Jewish – but conflating anti-Zionism with Jew-hatred is a tragic mistake.

AntiZionism is antiSemitic according to Jews. Anti Israel is antiSemitic according to Jews.
But that is like arguing that any criticism of Hamas is islamophobic, and includes all Arabs, or all Muslims.

It is acceptable to criticise Israel, and to criticise the Zionist belief.
Only being Jewish is a protected characteristic.
 
Mbk misinterprets the ruling, again:


If anti-Zionism is protected, then Zionism cannot be protected as a characteristic.


AntiZionism is antiSemitic according to Jews. Anti Israel is antiSemitic according to Jews.
But that is like arguing that any criticism of Hamas is islamophobic, and includes all Arabs, or all Muslims.

It is acceptable to criticise Israel, and to criticise the Zionist belief.
Only being Jewish is a protected characteristic.

He didn't breach the law by criticising jews/zionists, he fell foul by reposting an image comparing them to rats.

It's why he got the sack.

It's why no amount of bleating on your part will see him reinstated.

He's gone.
 
He didn't breach the law by criticising jews/zionists, he fell foul by reposting an image comparing them to rats.

It's why he got the sack.

It's why no amount of bleating on your part will see him reinstated.

He's gone.
That wasn't mbk's argument.
He claimed that antiZionism is antiSemitic. It isn't.
Lineker, accepted the material was racial / religious hate promoting, something that is illegal in the UK. Hopefully those on this forum wont need reminding. No amount of pretending that Zionism is a political ideology will protect them as I am sure Lineker was told.


I support Lineker's stand. Sometimes financial interest is trumped by moral principles.
 
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