Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[Deleted member 323070]

they can always claim asylum in the safe country they are living in.

Then they wouldn't be subject to some raving lunatic's murderous campaign.

what offence?

Endangering life for starters.
Or are you now going to argue that endangering life is not an offence in international waters?

 

[motorbiking]

Then they wouldn't be subject to some raving lunatic's murderous campaign.

Sounds like a solution, everyone likes

Endangering life for starters.
Or are you now going to argue that endangering life is not an offence in international waters?

So if Border Force want to board my vessel and I don't fancy it, 'cos I have a bilge full of cocaine. They can't use force, for fear of being prosecuted for "endangering life"? Good to know.

Can you share the statute?

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Sounds like a solution, everyone likes

It ain't gonna happen.

So if Border Force want to board my vessel and I don't fancy it, 'cos I have a bilge full of cocaine. They can't use force, for fear of being prosecuted for "endangering life"? Good to know.

Thay can't just shoot up the inflatable with numerous unarmed people on board.

Can you share the statute?

Endangering life at sea is now a new criminal offense in the UK
Asylum and Immigration Bill 2025
I thought you'd know about that one, It applies to Reform party members and the Border Force.

 

[motorbiking]

Thay can't just shoot up the inflatable with numerous unarmed people on board.

So just to be clear, if I refuse to stop, they have no power to chase me and wont call in the Royal Navy for armed support. You are 100% certain.

Endangering life at sea is now a new criminal offense in the UK
Asylum and Immigration Bill 2025

So that would be a no then. The words "..Bill 2025" gives it away

 

[Highway Man]

Are they not endangering their own lives by over loading an inflatable and setting off to sea in such a craft with a gallon of petrol.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

So just to be clear, if I refuse to stop, they have no power to chase me and wont call in the Royal Navy for armed support. You are 100% certain.

If they opened fire on an inflatable full of unarmed refugees, (which is the original scenairo) it would be considered a reckless endangerment of life.

You can do what gas does and dream up scenarios and invented formulas to make your point, but you are diverting away from the topic of discussion.

 

[denso13]

Are they not endangering their own lives by over loading an inflatable and setting off to sea in such a craft with a gallon of petrol.

Yes, if they try to get here then it is the only way.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Are they not endangering their own lives by over loading an inflatable and setting off to sea in such a craft with a gallon of petrol.

Irrelevant.

If I am balancing on a trapeze without any safety gear, I am endangering my own life. If someone comes along and starts shaking the trapeze they are increasing the risk and danger.

 

[pete01]

If I am balancing on a trapeze

Don't balance on a trapeze then...

 

[motorbiking]

Yes there are dozens of offences they commit:

- Vessel not coded for commercial use
- Skipper not commercially endorsed
- vessel not registered
- unsafe vessel
- no life saving equipment
etc.

thats without getting in to the immigration and people trafficking offences.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Yes there are dozens of offences they commit:

- Vessel not coded for commercial use
- Skipper not commercially endorsed
- vessel not registered
- unsafe vessel
- no life saving equipment
etc.

thats without getting in to the immigration and people trafficking offences.

We're discussing the firing on unarmed inflatable boats.

 

[motorbiking]

If they opened fire on an inflatable full of unarmed refugees, (which is the original scenairo) it would be considered a reckless endangerment of life.

So they have no power to use any force on a vessel?

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Don't balance on a trapeze then...

if Dick Turpin was in his cherry picker, and someone jumped in his van and started driving off, they'd probably be charged with endangering life in addition to any other offence they might have committed.

 

[motorbiking]

if Dick Turpin was in his cherry picker, and someone jumped in his van and started driving off, they'd probably be charged with endangering life in addition to any other offence they might have committed.

what offence would that be?

 

[pete01]

if Dick Turpin was in his cherry picker, and someone jumped in his van and started driving off, they'd probably be charged with endangering life in addition to any other offence they might have committed.

I doubt the van would drive with the cherry picker up.