Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[Highway Man]

Dunno...OMG

OMG he is saying you did.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

The goal is to stop them arriving in UK territory.

it would be no less stable.
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Only those defending the border need to know where it is.

Call it what you want but rounding people up and taking them back to another country is not legal
Pushing them back to prevent them entering your territory- legal

According to you.
You've spent numerus pages arguing the indefensible. Probably not for the first time, and probably not for the last time.

 

[Notch7]

If people are not in the water and or the vessel is not sinking. It’s up to the skipper of the boat to raise a distress call

but you said:

A vessel without propulsion needs assistance

So which is it?

 

[Notch7]

The goal is to stop them arriving in UK territory

if a small boat is in distress then the goal must be to rescue

 

[Deleted member 323070]

A bit rich after what they did in New Zealand

It was in the southern hemisphere to evacuate islanders living in the shadow of USA nuclear fall out.

 

[Notch7]

So just leave it drifting about until people start drowning?

according to you it is up to the skipper to raise a distress call, in which case they dont need towing anywhere

If people are not in the water and or the vessel is not sinking. It’s up to the skipper of the boat to raise a distress call.

poor Motobiking drowning in his own BS

 

[Deleted member 323070]

the one telling lies is you and your feeble atempt to call my posts misinformation is dishonest.

What does Notch do when he's lost the argument - try to get the thread locked or deleted. Shameful.

You are being deceitful. You claim, and continue to claim, that a flimsy overloaded boat full of refugees is a threat to peace, security and good order of UK.

UK must be on a fragile knife edge of stability for a boat load of refugees to tip the balance.

 

[Highway Man]

if a small boat is in distress then the goal must be to rescue

When is your mate going to have his meltdown and get banned? You promised

 

[Deleted member 323070]

you cant take it back to France without agreement

And if they interfere with a boat in France waters it would cause an international outcry.

In response to the UK Government’s plans, the French Minister of the Interior, Gérald Darmanin tweeted that France would not accept any practices contrary to the law of the sea.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

they have no choice with the propellor jammed with a piece of french rope

What part of:

(1)Subject to subsection (5) below, a person commits an offence if he unlawfully and intentionally—
(a)destroys a ship or a fixed platform,
(b)damages a ship, its cargo or a fixed platform so as to endanger, or to be likely to endanger, the safe navigation of the ship, or as the case may be, the safety of the platform, or
(c)commits on board a ship or on a fixed platform an act of violence which is likely to endanger the safe navigation of the ship, or as the case may be, the safety of the platform.

Do you not understand?

 

[Highway Man]

And if they interfere with a boat in France waters it would cause an international outcry.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

So just leave it drifting about until people start drowning?

Give your head a shake

Then it's become a rescue situation intentionally caused by UK.

 

[Notch7]

nowhere in SOLAS 33 does it state the contracting governments "must allow" rescued migrants to be landed

 

[Deleted member 323070]

of course you can, if its already in French waters. A vessel without propulsion needs assistance. It is not a distress situation, the towing vessel has no responsibility for the state of status of the people in the vessel he is towing.

You have zero knowledge and you are just talking boll@x.

If you've intentionally disabled the propulsion system, you have endangered the lives of the occupants.
Piracy comes to mind. What's next, ask them for their valuables as payment for towing them to safety?

 

[Deleted member 323070]

of course you can, if its already in French waters. A vessel without propulsion needs assistance. It is not a distress situation, the towing vessel has no responsibility for the state of status of the people in the vessel he is towing.

Of course they do. You can't recklessly tow another vessel placing the occupants in jeopardy.
You've resorted to ludicrous comments now.

You have zero knowledge and you are just talking boll@x.

You are making dangerous suggestions of illegal actions that would lead anyone who follows your advice could find themselves in serious trouble.