Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[Deleted member 323070]

Evidence says they arent


blocking a small inflatable in the English Channel increases it’s time in the water at its furthest point from land.

That increases risk

It's illegal anyway, to interfere with another vessel.

 

[motorbiking]

Channel crossings: Why Britain cannot simply send back migrants

Anti-immigrant sentiments often demand that foreigners be "sent back to where they came from," especially in the run-up to elections. In the UK, in particular, migration and border control have been contentious issues for years, since the country's departure from the European Union was based on...

www.infomigrants.net

My apologies to the dullards who don't have the capacity to read all of this. I can't really condense it down any further.

If you're having real difficulty understanding it, ask an adult.

You will be good enough to provide the text in the appropriate treaty that backs up the claim that they must take them to the country of their registration (flag state). But assuming you can't and lets take it is correct for the time being, why don't you toddle off to marine traffic or vessel finder and have a look at the flags of the vessels in the English Channel. You will find Netherlands, Mexico, Spain, China, Sweden, Liberia, Panama etc. In fact Panama has the largest ships register in the world. Do you think those who wrote the treaty were not aware that ships travel all over the world?

So I pick someone up 5 miles from the French coast and say, sorry buddy I have to take you to China.

 

[motorbiking]

My point is that it is pretty clear that nobody is going to change their minds on the issue of the legality of push backs etc. So, why don't you just all agree to start another thread, specifically about this particular issue. Then you can have another hundred pages saying exactly the same things, and you won't disrupt everyone else who wants to discuss Reform policies on this thread. You might of course say, why not start another thread to discuss Reform. But I know, from experience, that will get very confusing and people will post on both threads. And we will still have to sift through a hundred plus posts repeating exactly the same arguments about crossings, in order to find a single new post which is actually about Reform.

For the benefit of everyone else, if they post new arguments, I will address them, but I will not bother replying to those that are going in circles.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

You will be good enough to provide the text in the appropriate treaty that backs up the claim that they must take them to the country of their registration (flag state). But assuming you can't and lets take it is correct for the time being, why don't you toddle off to marine traffic or vessel finder and have a look at the flags of the vessels in the English Channel. You will find Netherlands, Mexico, Spain, China, Sweden, Liberia, Panama etc. In fact Panama has the largest ships register in the world. Do you think those who wrote the treaty were not aware that ships travel all over the world?

So I pick someone up 5 miles from the French coast and say, sorry buddy I have to take you to China.

No I can't, I've learned from you to post nonsense, and interpret it as I find suitable.

Gotcha.

But the captain of the rescue vessel can exercise his judgement of where to land those rescued.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

For the benefit of everyone else, if they post new arguments, I will address them, but I will not bother replying to those that are going in circles.

You are the one going in circles time and time and time again. We're just chasing your false information.
It won't be the last time neither, I bet.

 

[Odds]

If he speaks when there is no microphone to record his words, has he actually said anything? It’s a major philosophical and existential dilemma for any narcissist... John Crace @ The Garundia skewers the beer swilling windsock, and goes on to point out:

what he was actually doing by pledging an end to the two-child cap on benefits and a new basic rate tax threshold of £20,000, was revealing a policy portfolio costing £50bn to £80bn.

But H-man will vote for him because "he makes me smile".

 

[MNW67]

All you have to do is tell Motorbiking to stop lying and we will stop.

I don’t see why he should get away with endless lies.

His scenarios are ridiculous and unworkable and not a solution…..So tell Motorbiking to have some courage and admit that

I wasn't suggesting that either side should stop. Only that you all agree to cover this particular issue on another thread. Anyway, sorry for interfering. It's the Mods who should really split it off.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

I wasn't suggesting that either side should stop. Only that you all agree to cover this particular issue on another thread. Anyway, sorry for interfering. It's the Mods who should really split it off.

It's mbk who should really stop twisting the regulations to suit his own political ideology.

I very much doubt it's the first time, and I'm sure as hell, it won't be the last.

 

[motorbiking]

If he speaks when there is no microphone to record his words, has he actually said anything? It’s a major philosophical and existential dilemma for any narcissist... John Crace @ The Garundia skewers the beer swilling windsock, and goes on to point out:

what he was actually doing by pledging an end to the two-child cap on benefits and a new basic rate tax threshold of £20,000, was revealing a policy portfolio costing £50bn to £80bn.

But H-man will vote for him because "he makes me smile".

If he can get rid of the terrible and massively unpopular labour government - I will vote reform too.

I am not yet convinced.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

If he can get rid of the terrible and massively unpopular labour government - I will vote reform too.

I am not yet convinced.

Don't worry, you have until 4th July 2029 to make up your mind.

 

[Notch7]

For the benefit of everyone else, if they post new arguments, I will address them, but I will not bother replying to those that are going in circles.

That’s because you’ve LOST the argument and are too cowardly to admit it.



Motorbiking claims the 2 solutions for stopping migrant boats is:

1) rescuing those in French waters and taking them back to France.
Motorbiking refuses to accept what % that is (its tiny)

2) Motorbikings pushback claim is this:

A British boat stays perfectly in English water, pushes back a migrant boat that stays perfectly in French water……clearly nonsense


Motorbiking is WRONG

 

[Mottie]

That’s because you’ve LOST the argument and are too cowardly to admit it.



Motorbiking claims the 2 solutions for stopping migrant boats is:

1) rescuing those in French waters and taking them back to France.
Motorbiking refuses to accept what % that is (its tiny)

2) Motorbikings pushback claim is this:

A British boat stays perfectly in English water, pushes back a migrant boat that stays perfectly in French water……clearly nonsense


Motorbiking is WRONG

Grow up.

 

[motorbiking]

Don't worry, you have until 4th July 2029 to make up your mind.

Which is why it's so odd for Starmer to go on the attack, with his anti Nige' speech. He could have just ignored him and said "we are busy getting on with serious government...blah blah yawn". He has a massive majority, but he cannot hide his body language and he is clearly ruffled.

 

[Vinty]

Who said that politics is only showbusiness for ugly people.
Labour need to get rid of Starmer and find themselves a charismatic bullshitter to put a smile on people's faces and make them feel good.
Meanwhile behind the scenes, the government can get on with real business of running the country.

 

[Deleted member 323070]

Which is why it's so odd for Starmer to go on the attack, with his anti Nige' speech. He could have just ignored him and said "we are busy getting on with serious government...blah blah yawn". He has a massive majority, but he cannot hide his body language and he is clearly ruffled.

You're not up for election, but you manage to ruffle some feathers each time you spout your warped interpretation of the regulations.

Starmer's ruffled by Farage's illegal intentions that would harm UK's reputation on the international stage and lose cooperation with our nearest neighbours.