Ssssssshhhhhh, don't mention Reform.

[Notch7]

No, they told us of the opportunities. They could 'promise' us nothing as they weren’t in a position to deliver anything. Obviously the conservatives wasted those opportunities which is why I now give my support to Reform. Now get back in your box and stop repeating the same shyte over and over.

please could you say what Brexit opportunities vote leave told you about that the Conservatives wasted.

 

[Notch7]

So which politician has the policies that you like?

None of them.

But Labour are by far the least worst option.

Reform are the worst option by a country mile, with Tories not far behind

 

[Mottie]

None of them.

But Labour are by far the least worst option.

Reform are the worst option by a country mile, with Tories not far behind

Then no matter what anyone says, you won’t agree with them so no point trying to tell you what policies I like, what promises were made or what opportunities were wasted.

Let me try this, what Labour policies are the least worst options in your mind?

 

[Notch7]

Then no matter what anyone says, you won’t agree with them so no point trying to tell you what policies I like, what promises were made or what opportunities were wasted

I’ve heard the argument so often from Brexit supporters: “Brexit wasn’t done properly, the opportunities weren’t taken”

But whenever I ask “how could Brexit have been done better, what opportunities were missed” - there’s never any answer.


Come on Mottie, you have said: “the opportunities were wasted” surely you must know what these opportunities are?

 

[Notch7]

Let me try this, what Labour policies are the least worst options in your mind?

Here’s a few:

1) Labour gave junior Drs a pay rise, so it ended the dispute and ended all the time wasted on it

2) more money to the NHS to try and cut the waiting time backlog

3) plans to reform primary care

4) tougher regulations on water, with intention of making it so tough renationalisation is the result.

5) supply side reforms of planning to speed up infrastructure building - the U.K. wastes unbelievable time and money on planning and consultancy.

6) Labours commitment to increasing pace of deportations and increase in rate of processing asylum seekers.

7) Labour is working to remove trade barriers with our biggest trade partner - the best way to get those opportunities of brexit is to rejoin Single Market and Customs Union

 

[motorbiking]

Here’s a few:

1) Labour gave junior Drs a pay rise, so it ended the dispute and ended all the time wasted on it

Paid off the unions

2) more money to the NHS to try and cut the waiting time backlog

might want to factcheck that - ONS say the last two governments increased spending more

3) plans to reform primary care

a plan

4) tougher regulations on water, with intention of making it so tough renationalisation is the result.

a plan

5) supply side reforms of planning to speed up infrastructure building - the U.K. wastes unbelievable time and money on planning and consultancy.

a plan

6) Labours commitment to increasing pace of deportations and increase in rate of processing asylum seekers.

not going too well so far

7) Labour is working to remove trade barriers with our biggest trade partner - the best way to get those opportunities of brexit is to rejoin Single Market and Customs Union

another plan.

they have regained two points in the polls. We may end up with a Reform/Con coalition government next time. I like coalitions, they stop the dumb policies.

Here are some other things labour have done:

Increased unemployment
Increased taxes
failed to build confidence in the economy
Spent millions re-nationalising rail (which was nationalised already during covid)
Failed to tackle increased illegal immigration
created employment rules that make Britain less attractive for employers.
Pushing laws that allow the state to empty your bank account with nothing more than suspicion
Extended EU fishing rights for nothing much in return.

How are you getting on finding your 22,500 illegals in 2022 over a 6 month period?
We had over 2,000 this week. Using NotchyMaths™ that's 104,000 this year.

 

[Highway Man]

So your support is based on personality, no rational argument, no consideration of facts, evidence or data.

You literally are supporting Reform out of blind faith.

I think you put way too much faith and importance in policies tbh. Policies / promises are always broken once elected. They tell you what you want to hear, you give them your vote, they break their promise, you then get bitter and twisted and rant and rave. I care not for policies for this very reason, vote for someone who makes you smile, you will never be let down.

 

[pete01]

OMG

 

[Highway Man]

OMG

OMG

 

[Highway Man]

OMG

But Notch will vote for these because he likes their policy's, The whole political system is a joke as far as I am concerned. I just get on with my life and don't let them bother me. No political party can do anything for you that you can't do for yourself.

 

[denso13]

No, they told us of the opportunities. They could 'promise' us nothing as they weren’t in a position to deliver anything.

But they aren't real opportunities though.

The Tories found out that to take back control of our fishing meant that we could not then land fish in the EU, or sell to them. They backtracked after that.

Nige is promising things that he can't deliver, and you have fallen for it.

 

[Odds]

But they aren't real opportunities though.

The Tories found out that to take back control of our fishing meant that we could not then land fish in the EU, or sell to them. They backtracked after that.

Nige is promising things that he can't deliver, and you have fallen for it.

...hook, line and anchor.

 

[Notch7]

Paid off the unions

Predictable right wing talking point.


Junior Dr's strike threats and action was over 2 years and 44 strike days costing £2b

The deal Labour agreed was only slightly higher than Tories and it ended the strike.


The pay rises for other public service sectors were in line with pay review bodies.


Motorbiking is a right wing grifter that doesn't like facts

 

[Notch7]

might want to factcheck that - ONS say the last two governments increased spending more

Not true

 

[Notch7]

not going too well so far

Deportations and asylum processing going up from Tories.

So yes going well