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Does insurance cover a car you are told not to drive?

Have to agree about the huge mess, I've never known anything quite like this in all my years in the trade.

Also, it surely will affect other vehicles, makes too .
 
Have to agree about the huge mess, I've never known anything quite like this in all my years in the trade.

Also, it surely will affect other vehicles, makes too .
It will creep to other cars but only when they have cleared the backlog of current ones - just like no need to wear covid masks ( when there wasn’t any ) to --- now you must (when they got supplies )
 
It will creep to other cars but only when they have cleared the backlog of current ones - just like no need to wear covid masks ( when there wasn’t any ) to --- now you must (when they got supplies )
No.

If the Takata airbag systems are faulty on 1 Citroen model, there will be other Citroen models, and other makes affected.

The cover up, if there is 1, is not like Covid masks whatsoever. The masks and social distancing worked, as expected. In other words, better than nothing, but not a cure.
 
No.

If the Takata airbag systems are faulty on 1 Citroen model, there will be other Citroen models, and other makes affected.

The cover up, if there is 1, is not like Covid masks whatsoever. The masks and social distancing worked, as expected. In other words, better than nothing, but not a cure.
Don't want to get side tracked but I am not discussing the effectives of the masks but rather the availability of supply strangely matched the need to wear them.
Surly they know all the cars that have the airbag so why dont they recall them all now.
 
Don't want to get side tracked but I am not discussing the effectives of the masks but rather the availability of supply strangely matched the need to wear them.
Surly they know all the cars that have the airbag so why dont they recall them all now.

Mine has no less than six, covering the front seats - eek!
 
Don't want to get side tracked but I am not discussing the effectives of the masks but rather the availability of supply strangely matched the need to wear them.
Surly they know all the cars that have the airbag so why dont they recall them all now.
Don't bring up covid conspiracy theories then.

They (manufactures, builders) know what cars are fitted with what. Not every system is the same.

But there will be more, and as Avocet will know better than most, is when, and why, the recalls are made. This 1 is due to a specific issue, I would imagine there is some serious investigating going on, to determine what else may be affected.

If it was delayed due to supply and fit issues, then this current recall wouldn't have been made as urgent as it has been. No conspiracy that I can see, just anticipating the near future.
 
Mine has no less than six, covering the front seats - eek!
As do a lot of cars. There will be a point where it is just not economical to replace them, as often happens in relativley minor shunts that set them off.

Money off new and second hand replacement cars may well be the way forward
 
Done of what I said is a conspiracy - just facts of the time line of what happened -- I was actually there
I'm not going to get drawn into another of your conspiracy theories. And it is a conspiracy theory.

There was lots of advice on how to make temporary masks at the time, before the Government managed to get urgent supplies. Be a bit crazy to mandate them if nobody had them though.
 
Be a bit crazy to mandate them if nobody had them though.
That is exactly what I am saying and you are calling it a conspiracy, we were told not need -not needed but then when widely available the advice changed to needed.
That what I am saying about this car recall - not needed - not needed- until extra capacity to fix becomes available then all of a sudden they will "find" other models affected
 
That is exactly what I am saying and you are calling it a conspiracy, we were told not need -not needed but then when widely available the advice changed to needed.
That what I am saying about this car recall - not needed - not needed- until extra capacity to fix becomes available then all of a sudden they will "find" other models affected
No, I don't agree at all.
 
Do you think they have found all the cars that have the dodgy airbag - its been going on for 10 years isn’t it ?

Yes, it's being going on for 10 years. There are about 70 million Takata airbags in circulation, all over the world, fitted to many makes and models of car, not just Citroens. My understanding is that Takata used ammonium nitrate as the gas generator which, in damp / hot conditions, deteriorates over time and instead of "burning rapidly", to generate the gas to inflate the airbag, it just explodes, resulting in shrapnel from the casing, sometimes being fired out towards the occupant, instead of just the airbag. There have been a small number of fatalities around the world, as a result of this.

I believe there was a much earlier recall, which involved inspecting the airbag casings for traces of rust (indicating moisture) and replacing if rust was found. If no rust was found, bags of silica gel were put in or near the airbag modules to act as a desiccant. Unfortunately, on some cars, the silica worked for a while, until it had absorbed as much moisture as it could, and then the deterioration continued, hence this new recall. Takata went bust in 2017, so it's "everyone else's problem" now... :rolleyes: I don't believe the other airbag manufacturers round the world, have anything like sufficient capacity to make replacements for 70 million Takata airbags.

I also believe that Citroen were issued with a "do not drive" order by regulators in France. This puts them in an incredibly difficult position as it's basically the same product everywhere else. In the UK, we have a voluntary Code of Practice on vehicle safety recalls, operated by DVSA. Why this hasn't affected the (very similar parts bin cousin of the C3, the Peugeot 208), I have no idea.

There will be no trouble finding which vehicles were fitted with Takata airbags, as the manufacturers will have records of what was fitted to each vehicle.
 
That is exactly what I am saying and you are calling it a conspiracy, we were told not need -not needed but then when widely available the advice changed to needed.
That what I am saying about this car recall - not needed - not needed- until extra capacity to fix becomes available then all of a sudden they will "find" other models affected

Except they haven't got the capacity to fix them all yet! If they did, people wouldn't be up in arms because they can't use their cars and don't know how long it will be until they can!
 
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