Trouble fitting a toilet

[rick1632]

Fitting this toilet is proving a lot trickier than I expected.

As you can see the flange on the end of the pipe is wider than the gap in the back of the toilet. I'm wondering if I can trim the sides off this to allow the toilet to slide over the top. The diameter of the flange is 17.5cm and the gap at the back of the toilet is 14cm, so I only need to take <2cm off each side. The actual cast iron soil pipe is ~11.5cm wide (outer diameter) so I've got a bit of leeway either side.

Apart from the physical difficult - planning on trying it with a hacksaw, anyone see any major issues with this approach?


I should add, the flange doesn't seem to be doing anything - the bottom of it is a few mm about the floorboards - it's not fastened to anything.

 

[accelerator]

Where are you trying to position the toilet? What are you going to use to connect the toilet to the soil pipe in the floor?

First suggestion from me is you could build a plinth for the toilet to sit on that goes around the soil pipe circumference on the floor. It would make the toilet higher, but then you could slide it however much you wanted over the opening of the soil pipe.

 

[rick1632]

Where are you trying to position the toilet? What are you going to use to connect the toilet to the soil pipe in the floor?

First suggestion from me is you could build a plinth for the toilet to sit on that goes around the soil pipe circumference on the floor. It would make the toilet higher, but then you could slide it however much you wanted over the opening of the soil pipe.

So in order for the toilet to line up with the fitted units against the wall, it needs to slide back 10cm further.
I can put a small boxing in to cover the gap, but that will look a bit off and mean the seat has a lot further to go back again looking off.

I did think of raising the toilet, but I think that would look quite odd too in what is quite a small bathroom.

It is a possibility though - I just need to weigh them all up.

Hmm - looking at that option again now - toilet is just 40cm high to the rim - need to raise it 6cm to clear the pipe - that puts the rim at 46cm which is comfort toilet range. Doable, but not kid friendly.

 

[rick1632]

I have another option possibly. The toilet almost fits OVER the pipe as you can see in the photo - the base of the toilet is about 3mm off the floor.

So I can just slice off the top of the flange which will be a lot easier to do - it widens out by about 8mm in the last cm, so I'd lose width and height and then it will fit.

Time to get a decent angle grinder for the job!

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

I'd Pull that Connector out, bin it and see what you've got left. Chances are you've a 110mm spigot in the floor, and a standard Pan Connector will be all you need to join the pan to the soil pipe.

 

[rick1632]

I'd Pull that Connector out, bin it and see what you've got left. Chances are you've a 110mm spigot in the floor, and a standard Pan Connector will be all you need to join the pan to the soil pipe.

Connector??

What are you looking at when you say that?

That white thing emerging from the floor is a cast iron flange painted with white hammerite.

Removing it would be a lot more challenging than what I'm proposing.

 

[accelerator]

I'm not an expert, but personally I don't think you should be doing anything to that soil pipe, and not angle grinding it, I don't think it will go well.

Maybe cutting something off the toilet would work, but then maybe not, as you run the risk of cracking it.

Which brings me back to a plinth ... or maybe changing the toilet.

 

[flameport]

a cast iron flange painted with white hammerite.

Cut it off, cast iron cuts rather easily, it's a few minutes work with an angle grinder and thin cutting disc.

 

[endecotp]

Get a different toilet that will fit the soil pipe that you have.

 

[Hugh Jaleak]

Connector??

What are you looking at when you say that?

The Plastic Flange that's sitting inside the Socket....

Although I realise the pan still wont push back without taking a bit off the socket. If you are insistent on that particular pan, you may not have any other option.