The phase out of ice engines..

[Coaster]

If looking for another car, is the best way forward to go electric/hybrid?

Personally I believe the government are going to pressure ice car owners into electric cars through ever increasing road taxes and also the taxation of fuels.
Plus high increases of fuel prices through reduction of supply to the market , petrol station closures etc..

Not sure about timescales, or if farage will reverse net zero after the next elections if he gets in.

 

[JBR]

Well it won't work on me. Electric cars are completely unattractive for several reasons, primarily their cost, relatively short lives, lack of range, expensive to run unless you have your own charger, and...

they do tend to explode and burst into flames!

 

[ReganAndCarter]

Same here, I'm sticking with diesel. Commercial transport will need it for some time, so can't see diesel becomming obsolete for a long time. Too many unknows, downsides and inconveniences with EVs - though they do seem to be getting cheaper to buy new. I believe the charging, distribution and generation network isn't up to large scale EV adoption, and won't be for a long time if ever. The much greater flexibiklity of ICE is something I wouldn't want to lose, and I can't see myself sitting around like lemon in some service station/McD's drinking endless coffee while I try and get the stupid thing to charge.

[Incoming barage from EVangelists imminent]

 

[Charlie George]

If looking for another car, is the best way forward to go electric/hybrid?

Personally I believe the government are going to pressure ice car owners into electric cars through ever increasing road taxes and also the taxation of fuels.
Plus high increases of fuel prices through reduction of supply to the market , petrol station closures etc..

Not sure about timescales, or if farage will reverse net zero after the next elections if he gets in.

Another thing to consider is insurance costs, EVs tend to be higher to insure, sometimes up to 50% higher.

 

[StephenStephen]

I guess ignorance is bliss...

...when it comes to everything that people who've not had much experience of EV's think they know/ have read/been told/saw on a YouTube video about how difficult it must be for us poor souls who do....

 

[flameport]

If looking for another car, is the best way forward to go electric/hybrid?

Either go electric or go petrol.

Hybrids are the worst of both bundled up into a package of complex failure.
The peak of hybrid cars was 15+ years ago.
Old technology that only persists so that car makers can continue selling combustion engines for a few more years.

As for diesel - forget it. There are basically no new diesel cars available now, and the tiny few which may exist will be money pits due to the excessive amounts of complexity involved in a feeble attempt to reduce pollution.
Even if you somehow found one which wasn't, it will be useless unless you are one of the tiny minority who drive 100s of miles along motorways daily.

 

[robinbanks]

(Snipped nonsense)

Your avatar suits you well!

the best way forward to go electric?

More than likely. Tell us:

What you use a car for (where do you go, what is there?)
When you use your car
How many miles a week you drive
If you have a driveway
If you have home energy generation

 

[norseman]

Here we go again (& again & .. )

 

[SimonH2]

Well I thought I knew a bit about the risks with Li batteries ... till I went to a talk/presentation last week. Given by someone from the science arm of HSE, he showed some of the research they've been doing.
* High failure rates
* Failures occur quickly giving little warning - there's a standard for cars that there should be a min 5 min warning or time to exit the vehicle, their tests suggest that might not be possible
* Failures produce large quantities if hydrocarbons, then the a later stage emits lots of oxygen to go with the fuel, plus significant quantites of nasties like hydrogen flouride which will rapidly combine with water to make hydroflouric acid. If that doesn't scare you, it should.
* And then there's the very considerable quantities of carbon monoxide.
* And the fine particles of various nasty heavy metals.
* And when the pack properly goes up, other cell (and fragments thereof) emitted like some sort of shrapnel bomb.
I'd definitely not have a battery pack in the house (where are most people fitting their solar system batteries). And I'd be parking a lecky car a bit further from the house than I do the current petrol ones.

 

[freddiemercurystwin]

Here's an idea, how about all the EV whores keep out of a thread not about them for a change? They won't.

 

[Brigadier]

[Incoming barage from EVangelists imminent]

Meaning "I want my ill-informed prejudices to go unopposed. And I want my mom!"

 

[Brigadier]

Here we go again (& again & .. )

Here we go again...........another one who wants to circle round in the echo chamber.

 

[Brigadier]

Here's an idea, how about all the EV whores keep out of a thread not about them for a change? They won't.

Here's an idea.

How about all of those who have no experience of an EV - barring that Scotty knob on YouTube with the hilarious "hair" - shut up about a subject they know nowt about?

 

[Munroast]

thats cos they keep bu

Another thing to consider is insurance costs, EVs tend to be higher to insure, sometimes up to 50% higher.

thats because they keep bursting into flames - have you noticed how many 'wild fires' there are now - they are trying to keep it quiet but it will be caused by self combusting EVs - And this global warming ! all most certainly caused by the heat produced by EVs bursting into uncontrollable infernos

Hell has always be foreseen as a place of fires, as we now finally get close to it we begin to see it for what it is, the EV was invented. and they're buning everywhere

 

[Murdochcat]

There is no doubt that for people with 2 cars, who live near towns, and have their own drives / charge points it’s tricky to say that owning an EV wouldn’t make sense.

Japanese hybrids ARE hugely proven technology so low risk of issues

Diesels if looked after, will last a long time but would you buy one now?

Manufacturers who go 100% EV are just signing their own death warrants. The Chinese can, and will out produce them with zero penalties so they will end up with the lion share of car manufacturing