Right to protest...

[ellal]

As we all know, the right to protest is gradually being eroded in the UK...

Some may welcome this, as they may object to certain issues being highlighted...

This in the wake of the synagogue killings...

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"Police forces will be granted powers to put conditions on repeat protests, the government has announced, a day after nearly 500 protesters were arrested.
Senior officers will be able to consider the "cumulative impact" of previous protests, the Home Office said, which could mean they instruct organisers to hold events elsewhere if a site has seen repeated demonstrations.
Anyone who breaches these conditions will risk arrest and prosecution"

"She (Mahmood) said large, repeated protests could leave sections of the country, particularly religious communities, "feeling unsafe, intimidated and scared to leave their homes"

"Mahmood said this had been particularly evident within the Jewish community recently.
The home secretary will carry out a review of current protest legislation to "ensure powers are sufficient and being applied consistently", the government said.
This will include powers to ban protests outright, the government said"


The latest intention may be welcomed by those who may not like certain protests such as the pro Palestinian marches...

However it will also apply to far right and anti immigrant protests!

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Like a protest or not.

Its a slippery slope

 

[Koolpc]

Its obvious that some things that people protest against can cause a lot of issues.

The free hamas protests should be banned...yes, they are 'free hamas' protests in that the protesters are indeed promoting hamas who are behind all the rubbish spouted at the demonstrations etc...

People have got to wake up from what is really behind those protests!!!!

 

[Highway Man]

I believe in free speech and the right to protest, in fact if protesting was banned how else could peoples opinions be expressed. There are some protests that I don't agree with and feel should not be allowed but once this happens then we are heading towards living in a police state. It is counter protests that should be banned.

 

[Koolpc]

There is a big difference between free speech and spouting hate speech.

I agree about the right to protest but, these so called peaceful protests are just a massive gathering to incite violence and spread lies.....all controlled from deep within the Islamic extremist organisations that condone hamas and help spread its lies...

The vast majority of people who attend the palestine marches are brain washed...

 

[Highway Man]

There is a big difference between free speech and spouting hate speech.

I agree about the right to protest but, these so called peaceful protests are just a massive gathering to incite violence and spread lies.....all controlled from deep within the Islamic extremist organisations that condone hamas and help spread its lies...

Terrorist organisations or their supporters should not be allowed to protest, pretty sure that is the case now.

 

[ellal]

It is counter protests that should be banned.

Why?

Follow that logic through and you'd have no political opposition...

After all, that's just different groups in the same place jeering at each other

Terrorist organisations or their supporters should not be allowed to protest, pretty sure that is the case now.

But the definition of terrorism is now so broad that it can apply to almost any organisation...

Should climate change protestors, or domestic extremists as the government like to call them, be proscribed?

 

[carmanmemoranda]

I believe in free speech and the right to protest, in fact if protesting was banned how else could peoples opinions be expressed.

Agree

There are some protests that I don't agree with

Same, lots of them

and feel should not be allowed

So only allow what you agree with?

but once this happens then we are heading towards living in a police state.

Agree

It is counter protests that should be banned.

Disagree

 

[ellal]

I agree about the right to protest but, these so called peaceful protests are just a massive gathering to incite violence and spread lies.....all controlled from deep within the Islamic extremist organisations that condone hamas and help spread its lies...

You could apply that thinking to yaxley-lennon and his gatherings...

What was the message at rallies such as his?

Or the right wing anti immigrant protests at hotels?

And do you remember the riots after Southport?

 

[StephenStephen]

There is a big difference between free speech and spouting hate speech.

I agree about the right to protest but, these so called peaceful protests are just a massive gathering to incite violence and spread lies.....all controlled from deep within the Islamic extremist organisations that condone hamas and help spread its lies...

The vast majority of people who attend the palestine marches are brain washed...

Maybe have a chat with some of the vast range of different people attending a pro Palestine match? Maybe including with one of two of the large number of Jewish people attending pro Palestine marches...?

 

[noseall]

I believe in free speech and the right to protest

...but

It is counter protests that should be banned.

?

 

[Odds]

...but

?

In other words; he thinks he should get to say what he likes. You do not.

 

[fillyboy]

Why?

Follow that logic through and you'd have no political opposition...

After all, that's just different groups in the same place jeering at each other


But the definition of terrorism is now so broad that it can apply to almost any organisation...

Should climate change protestors, or domestic extremists as the government like to call them, be proscribed?

I'm in favour of peaceful demonstration, but there has to be a red line. Do you seriously think attacking an air force base and damaging aircraft doesn't cross that red line, that's why Palestine Action were quite rightly proscribed.
On the Pro Palestine marches, again fine, but is it necessary for the route to be as close as possible to a number of synagogues simply to inflame tensions.
Last night there was an arson attack on a mosque in East Sussex, I haven't seen many details on this but I assume it's tit for tat for the Manchester attack. I somehow doubt Jews were involved, more likely right wing thugs but whoever, the situation is escalating out of control.
On the pro Palestinian marches, I was surprised they went ahead this week, the police asked them not to simply from a moral standpoint, to show some respect for the Manchester victims, just 1 day off, it didn't happen, and that's very sad because it's no longer about Israel/Palestine.

I can (and sometimes do) debate the rights and wrongs of the Israel/Palestine all day long, but is constant pictures of nazis and comparisons of Jews to Nazis really necessary, that's not free speech, that's hate speech and that's why I reported two threads to both the police and the CST (community security team). Maybe something will happen, maybe it won't, both inform me they have a heavy workload.

 

[JohnD]

The free hamas protests should be banned

I haven't seen one of those.

But obviously, people should be permitted to oppose racist genocide, such as Israel's actions in Palestine.

 

[fillyboy]

I haven't seen one of those.

But obviously, people should be permitted to oppose racist genocide, such as Israel's actions in Palestine.

What do you think of your mates claim that the Israelis are torturing Greta Thundberg?