Using Wiser Smart Heating - seems limited

[WabbitPoo]

It would be sensible to switch on the heating at or around dusk. The actual time of day changes, of course, as the seasons go on. I cant see a way of doing that in the Wiser Home app. Does anyone have a workaround? It seems like a reasonable thing to want.

ALso, do I HAVE to use the Wiser Home app or will the system be accessible from another software solution?

 

[Mister Banks]

It’s an unusual thing to want to control heating based on dawn and/or dusk so you will have to lash up a way to do it using something like Home Assistant and a 3rd party sensor.

The HA integration for Wiser is excellent and gives a huge amount of information and control which the Wiser app can only dream of, well worth the effort of installing it.

 

[ericmark]

Wiser works with Google Home, so yes you can use Google Home to control it. I have one problem with Wiser, and not really a Wiser fault as such, my wife's bedroom radiator is on an outside north wall, current 16.5°C, where living room current 20.5°C sunny day today, and the centre of the bedroom is well above 16.5°C. Really, it needs a wall thermostat on an internal wall. This may be possible, but not really tried to link a wall thermostat to the TRV.

The app does not really help. It allows one to adjust the temperature, but not really set any schedule, but the Google Nest speakers allow one to do a lot more, as to how much I am not sure, never really tried, the app tells me when we arrived home, but it gets it wrong, as it works this out from when we walked past the Nest Gen 3 thermostat which I also use.

What I realised is heating is slow to react, turning it on at 5 pm, and the room will not be warm for at least an hour, so the whole idea of geo-fencing is flawed, as it turns back on too late.

However, I know the geo-fencing uses IFTTT, and I have used IFTTT to get extra time slots with Energenie stuff, so maybe it can be done?

It would seem you need to create a moment, have you tried doing that?

 

[WabbitPoo]

It’s an unusual thing to want to control heating based on dawn and/or dusk so you will have to lash up a way to do it using something like Home Assistant and a 3rd party sensor.

The HA integration for Wiser is excellent and gives a huge amount of information and control which the Wiser app can only dream of, well worth the effort of installing i

you dont want the heating to come on when the sun is still shining, coming on when its getting dark is sensible.

 

[WabbitPoo]

It’s an unusual thing to want to control heating based on dawn and/or dusk so you will have to lash up a way to do it using something like Home Assistant and a 3rd party sensor.

The HA integration for Wiser is excellent and gives a huge amount of information and control which the Wiser app can only dream of, well worth the effort of installing it.

what about smart plugs and lamps - you'd want to control them for dusk rather than say, a specific time. Doesnt seem unusual to me!

 

[Mister Banks]

what about smart plugs and lamps - you'd want to control them for dusk rather than say, a specific time. Doesnt seem unusual to me!

That’s not heating though. You asked about controlling heating for dawn/dusk.

 

[MeldrewsMate]

If you really were keen to accomplish this, then a smart plug could be integrated with the Wiser timing (and a remote relay) such that you would only generate a demand for heating when the Wiser called for heat (based upon time and temperature) AND the smart plug was energising the relay....the plug would be set to 'ON at Dusk +- a user defined time offset, and OFF at Dawn +- another user defined time offset'.
It would be a little heath Robinson, and so using Home Assistant software (which I found to be a steep learning curve) would be a lot neater.

 

[ericmark]

@MeldrewsMate has a good idea, the TP-Link (Tapo) smart switch uses a battery to power it, so does not need a neutral or any current flowing, so does not matter if 12 volts or 230 volts, it will still switch it, and it has the dusk and dawn setting. My living room auto turns on lights 45 minutes before sunset, and off at sunrise (In case I forget to turn them off) so can be done, but why?