Finally, a grown-up government.

[morqthana]

Now far be it from me to suggest that our lovely European partners might come up with rules that hurt our ability to do deals outside the union, or simply hurt us for the fun of it, Oh wait, yeah who could resit that opportunity.

Grow up, sensible, professionals.

Which is why you came up with the idea.

 

[morqthana]

But this LibDem idea is dead, for now.

It hasn't had its second reading yet.

 

[noseall]

It hasn't had its second reading yet.

That's why the slippery old goat added the 'for now'. Everyone can see the appetite is there as per the vote to advance. It's all going to be about timing.

No doubt MBillyK will suddenly become a re-joiner, should the wind blow in that direction, lol.

 

[morqthana]

It's all going to be about timing.

The timing is now. The only way to make the timing "better" is to wait for things to get even worse.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

They saw a big red bus, some very big numbers and did a lot of grunting, scratched an X in a box then carried on grunting. There was no 'post Brexit' in their sheltered world. Even slimy toad Ree Smugg suggested it would be 50 years before the UK would be rid of the Brexit scourge.

Absolutely textbook lefty elitist bad attitude. You're showing the utter contempt for your fellow man that your masters do.

People thought about it, realised both options were imperfect but picked the one they thought would be best.

Guess what though... it's already happened, it was all decided.

Is a time machine the only solution, or does any remoaner actually have any constructive suggestions?

 

[transam]

Who didn't. He lives in Trumps head rent free. You have one of the most popular presidents ever and one of the most useless, despised, ever to walk the earth.

Obama was a very clued up and articulate president / politician no doubt about it

He also had what I refer to as a human side
Concern for others less fortunate

Health care
Gun crime / gun owner ship

Etc etc

I liked his missis as well she is very bright imo

Decent people imo

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Not sure if Obama actually achieved much other than being cool and grinning.

But if you're fooled by that sort of thing then great I suppose.

 

[carmanmemoranda]

Not sure if Obama actually achieved much other than being cool and grinning.

But if you're fooled by that sort of thing then great I suppose.

A different view to the majority of the world.

But, it's to be expected

I'm guessing Obama was a lefty commie

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

I don't remember much about him.

I just remember him grinning. Was that all he did? Didn't he sing a song once?

Oh yes, here was one of his great achievements...

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Someone tell me, what did he actually achieve?

Some Obama-care thing that Trump had to shut down before the country went bust.

I don't know, it's of little relevance to us. But it proves that some are impressed by image more than by reality.

 

[transam]

Someone tell me, what did he actually achieve?

Some Obama-care thing that Trump had to shut down before the country went bust.

I don't know, it's of little relevance to us. But it proves that some are impressed by image more than by reality.

Think there was some bloke called er hmm

Osama Bin Laden ???
Seem to
Recall some thing happened ????

Yep he sang a song ??

Trump made a speech referencing the size of Arnold Palmers Dck

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Did he charge in, guns-a-blazing?

I'd assume the US military had something of a plan going on there, regardless of who the president was.

 

[fillyboy]

Think there was some bloke called er hmm

Osama Bin Laden ???
Seem to
Recall some thing happened ????

Yep he sang a song ??

Trump made a speech referencing the size of Arnold Palmers Dck

He initiated the 'new start' treaty with Russia and some sort of nuclear deal with Iran.

Yes, exactly.

 

[Notch7]

As had May and Johnson at the time.

Ya see the problem with being in a Customs union, is that you submit to all those full members in the customs union making all the rules. Now far be it from me to suggest that our lovely European partners might come up with rules that hurt our ability to do deals outside the union, or simply hurt us for the fun of it, Oh wait, yeah who could resit that opportunity.

The benefits of reduced trade barriers is far greater than sh1t deals we might get with countries 10,000 miles away.

CPTPP
Aust
New Zealand

Worth about £10 over the next decade

 

[Notch7]

I'm pro moving on and making it work, which I have done.

We need to get over the idea, that the EU will show us some mercy and cut a better deal.

Our best option is to be part of a wider EU 2.0, rather than begging forgiveness. There is no scenario where we rejoin on better terms than we had.

You are talking Brexit propaganda BS

You’ve turned into a Farage cultist