Starmer postpones elections even further in Reform areas...

[Ivor Windybottom]

Poor Ivor, knows nothing about the subject, as usual

You wear your issues on your sleeve.

 

[blup]

Farage is challenging it legally. Thankfully someone is standing up for democracy.

Until he gets into power, then he’ll dismantle the institutions like his mate in the White House

If this cancellation goes ahead then expect to see a mass council tax strike in April in all those areas.

More expensive to run an election whose councillors will last a year. But Labor are a victim of their undue haste in pushing local government reforms through.

Starmer's creating his very own equivalent of Thatcher's Poll Tax, the thing that ended her reign as a result of mass unrest.

Tthis is a consultation with a variety of councils. The idea that it will take the wind out of re forms sails is appealing

I remember back then, my dad was a proper old-fashioned socialist*, he stopped paying. Everyone knew they could stop paying but you only had to hold off until a certain point when you could pay just before they added court fees. It cost nothing to do and caused a cashflow and bureaucracy crisis in all the councils.

* Back when the labour party represented working people, not hairdyed cross-dressers and shouty attention seekers.

Did you vote Corbin then?

 

[Murdochcat]

You often moan about government inefficiency, some would have thought you would be keen to see a long term permanent benefit.

Or do you think efficiency savings are easily possible without short term costs and disruption


If Conservatives had suggested exact same thing you would very positive

Councils will still be run by people who don’t know what they are doing so I don’t think much will change or improve.

Efficiency will only improve if proper people with decent business experience get involved - which they won’t

And no I would not be in favour of this if another party suggested it

 

[Murdochcat]

Our local park has open plagued by travellers visiting very frequently this year. Each time they take a chain saw to the wood posts to gain entry

This is how it looks now

Anybody with a decent battery powered angle grinder will be through these in a few minutes

 

[Notch7]

Councils will still be run by people who don’t know what they are doing

in your opinion

do you have evidence people running councils are incompetent?

Efficiency will only improve if proper people with decent business experience get involved

oh you mean like Thames water -very efficient, £billions in debt

or do you mean carillion -went bankrupt

 

[Notch7]

Our local park has open plagued by travellers visiting very frequently this year. Each time they take a chain saw to the wood posts to gain entry

This is how it looks now

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Anybody with a decent battery powered angle grinder will be through these in a few minutes

and you think that is an example of Council inefficiency?

you seem to forget that councils with no money make short term decisions based on the cheapest option

 

[Notch7]

You wear your issues on your sleeve.

no, I state facts

you on the other hand post uninformed Reform propaganda base on emotion

Do you ever actually think about anything with any depth of reasoning? _ reckon you are a 70 ish year old Brexit voter from the North of England, Lancashire, Yorkshire or Durham area

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

Until he gets into power, then he’ll dismantle the institutions like his mate in the White House

More expensive to run an election whose councillors will last a year. But Labor are a victim of their undue haste in pushing local government reforms through.

Tthis is a consultation with a variety of councils. The idea that it will take the wind out of re forms sails is appealing

Did you vote Corbin then?

I don't know how to multi-quote!

There is absolutely no evidence of what Farage will do once in power, as he never has been. The idea that he's a clone of Trump is just silly. I doubt you're stupid enough to believe that they're both the same person, so don't expect others to believe it.

Elections have always cost money. We accept this, the idea of not having elections because they're an inconvenience or expense is really dangerous territory for a democracy. If we accept such a flimsy excuse for cancelling an election then lots more excuses will come the next time, possibly including the 2029 general election - Starmer could easily cook up some conflict or situation that gives an equivalent feeble excuse.

Don't understand the third point. I doubt that councils could gerrymander the boundaries to keep Reform out of areas, their lead is huge so they're going to win wherever the lines are drawn.

I never voted for Corbyn but I did admire his honourable principles. The cause he believed in was flawed, socialism always sounds good in opposition but is always a disaster in reality - history shows it almost always makes poor people poorer, however good the intentions. But at least Corbyn was honest. I'm pretty sure my dad would have voted for him if he'd still been around, as he believed in socialism in its original form. I reckon my dad would have been among the 50% of people who voted for Starmer and now say they'd vote for someone else, as it's now obvious to most that Starmer is not on the side of the british working classes. I would never have voted for Corbyn, but it was a close thing as the choices have been pretty dire in recent general elections.

I hope that's a polite response to your blunt points!

 

[Ihavenojob]

I think Keir Stalin has been reading the Nicolas Maduro book of electioneering.

 

[Ivor Windybottom]

no, I state facts

you on the other hand post uninformed Reform propaganda base on emotion

Do you ever actually think about anything with any depth of reasoning? _ reckon you are a 70 ish year old Brexit voter from the North of England, Lancashire, Yorkshire or Durham area

I was going to respond but then decided I can't be arsed.

However, there is definitely something of a juxtaposition between your first statement and the entirety of the rest of your post.

 

[motorbiking]

 

[Ihavenojob]

Keir Stalin has said all libraries must be closed for the good of the cause, the books will be burnt to keep power plants going.

 

[motorbiking]

The massive reorganisation’s in Surrey are going to cost a huge amount, lead to confusion and overlap and council tax payers will suffer from poorer services and absolutely no cost savings for years to come

plus there will be a mayor to pay for.

The delay is because they know they will be wiped out.

 

[Notch7]

The delay is because they know they will be wiped out.

Motorgrifting lie

Motorgrifting is just a mouthpiece for Reform propaganda now

 

[Notch7]

plus there will be a mayor to pay for.

evidence shows there will be cost savings overall