ICE told to get the eff out

[MNW67]

Her deliberate parking in the middle of the road and blocking the agents work was another big mistake, lots of things throughout the timeline of this incident will build up a picture that led up to the shooting.

She didn't park in the middle of the road. She parked parallel with the killer's car. She didn't block the agents. Her wife just videoed them. This fits in with the description as 'observers'. The video I posted in the article just above makes everything much clearer.

 

[MNW67]

OMG that is a terrible thing to say.

I regret it now. I took it way too far.

 

[Highway Man]

I regret it now. I took it way too far.

Exactly. Think on...

 

[motorbiking]

The road wasn't blocked. Traffic was flowing freely.

She is parked in parallel with the car of the agent who killed her.

Thats obviously not the case, from the video and all reconstructions.

 

[Highway Man]

That obviously not the case, from the video and all reconstructions.

She was deliberately blocking the agents from undertaking their duties. This had been happening all day by her.

 

[MNW67]

That obviously not the case, from the video and all reconstructions.

It's a one way street. The victim's car was parked in parallel with the killer's car and with the cars of other ICE agents. She was no more blocking the street than they were. All they were doing was videoing the agents.

 

[motorbiking]

The car was moving away for most of the shots fired. Murder, simple as.

Towards the guy who did the shooting. The one in front of the car. Not the one trying to stop her reaching in the window.

 

[MNW67]

She was deliberately blocking the agents from undertaking their duties. This had been happening all day by her.

But where is the evidence for that. In what way was she blocking them. All the videos show is the wife recording them.

 

[MNW67]

Towards the guy who did the shooting. The one in front of the car. Not the one trying to stop her reaching in the window.

Everyone knows that. Where have you been for the last three days.

 

[Highway Man]

The arguments put forward by some on here that she was simply making a U turn is absurd. Even when her wife tried getting in the car she drove off with no regard for the safety of anyone. She should have stopped and got out the car when ordered to do so. She would have been arrested for obstruction or other offences, she would not have been shot. She escalated the situation into the outcome herself.

 

[noseall]

Towards the guy who did the shooting. The one in front of the car. Not the one trying to stop her reaching in the window.

You mean the masked men that deliberately positioned themselves near to and in front of her vehicle. They attacked her - correct.

Murder, pure and simple.

 

[motorbiking]

Everyone knows that. Where have you been for the last three days.

I was uninterested.

But having now watched the video and the reconstruction. I can’t see the argument that it was murder or unlawful killing, measured by their (US) standards.

Since you’ve claimed it’s a slum dunk, maybe you can suggest why the officer in front of the vehicle would not reasonably be able to argue that he feared she would run in him over in her attempt to escape.

 

[motorbiking]

You mean the masked men that deliberately positioned themselves near to and in front of her vehicle. They attacked her - correct.

Murder, pure and simple.

It was the other guy in front of the car, with Police all over his uniform.

 

[motorbiking]

The arguments put forward by some on here that she was simply making a U turn is absurd. Even when her wife tried getting in the car she drove off with no regard for the safety of anyone. She should have stopped and got out the car when ordered to do so. She would have been arrested for obstruction or other offences, she would not have been shot. She escalated the situation into the outcome herself.

Yep. I think it’s close. But I think on balance the shooter had grounds. Under their laws.

Eminem and Nosenout seem to disagree but I think they might be applying a moral test that most on here would agree with.

 

[noseall]

But where is the evidence for that. In what way was she blocking them. All the videos show is the wife recording them.

Armed masked men surrounded her vehicle. Other armed masked men deliberately positioned themselves at the front of her vehicle. Whilst some of those masked armed men tried to reach in to her vehicle and tried also to open her door.

She was in fear of her life - guess what.