Deportation, or as some say - Remigration.

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None of our government's deportatation methods actually involve deporting anybody, it's all just a big con trick. Some time ago I posted my own plan, and here it is again. These are the things that a patriotic goverment should be doing...


1. Decide who is to be deported - I'd say all those who have come here since Blair.
2. Declare an emergency, all normal rules suspended, martial law etc in force. Any dissenters, immigration lawyers and campaigners, protesters, ugly women with blue hair and other left-wing types locked up for the duration.
3. Stop all payments of public money and services to those chosen to be deported, cut off their electric, gas, water. Switch off entire streets if necessary. At this point many will 'self deport'.
4. Those that will not go to be rounded up and held in camps or ships with minimal sustenance until they decide to self deport.
5. Channel (and any other waters deemed to be a problem) to be declared exclusion zones and patrolled by navy and airforce, any invading boats to be sunk, after being given a fair warning to turn back that has been ignored.
6. Any troublecausers to be dealt with severely. Military help to be requested from Trump if necessary, he wants a stable Europe.
7. Repeat in all other affected European countries.
 
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SPLINE said:
None of our government's deportatation methods actually involve deporting anybody, it's all just a big con trick. Some time ago I posted my own plan, and here it is again. These are the things that a patriotic goverment should be doing...


1. Decide who is to be deported - I'd say all those who have come here since Blair.
2. Declare an emergency, all normal rules suspended, martial law etc in force. Any dissenters, immigration lawyers and campaigners, protesters, ugly women with blue hair and other left-wing types locked up for the duration.
3. Stop all payments of public money and services to those chosen to be deported, cut off their electric, gas, water. Switch off entire streets if necessary. At this point many will 'self deport'.
4. Those that will not go to be rounded up and held in camps or ships with minimal sustenance until they decide to self deport.
5. Channel (and any other waters deemed to be a problem) to be declared exclusion zones and patrolled by navy and airforce, any invading boats to be sunk, after being given a fair warning to turn back that has been ignored.
6. Any troublecausers to be dealt with severely. Military help to be requested from Trump if necessary, he wants a stable Europe.
7. Repeat in all other affected European countries.
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The above will never happen.
It's just a wishlist for those at the bottom of the pile.
why do you think, that despite the public giving both Labour and Tories massive majorities at election to achieve change, nothing ever actually changes.

Vote Reform and get more of the same.
Nigel is well in with the so called establishment, that's why so many Tory failures are jumping ship and climbing into Nigels lifeboat for losers.
 
SPLINE said:
None of our government's deportatation methods actually involve deporting anybody, it's all just a big con trick. Some time ago I posted my own plan, and here it is again. These are the things that a patriotic goverment should be doing...
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They are not the reason your life is sh1te.
 
Vinty said:
The above will never happen.
It's just a wishlist for those at the bottom of the pile.
why do you think, that despite the public giving both Labour and Tories massive majorities at election to achieve change, nothing
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Labour did make a massive change - for the the worse.
 
I fail to understand how any government with a large majority cannot, or are unwilling, to pass legislation outlawing illegal entry and anyone who has entered the country illegally has no right to object to being deported under any other legislation.

Round em up and ship them out!

If they want to claim asylum let them apply from abroad. It is my honest opinion that the majority of those entering the country are economic migrants.
 
noseall said:
I always wondered what the other name for Reform was. :cool:
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The Turquoise Retirement Home?



Knowing Jenrick was hoping to defect, Reform had two options.

The first was obvious and entirely available. They could have said no.

They could have drawn a clear line and said: we have already taken enough. We are not a refuge for disillusioned Conservative politicians. We are not a halfway house for stalled careers. We are not a retirement home for failed or angry Tories. We are something new, radical and different.

That choice would have had internal coherence. It would have matched Reform’s rhetoric about being an insurgent force. It would have signalled confidence in their own grassroots and a willingness to build something from scratch.

Instead, they chose the opposite.





The story of the Reform Party is beyond all else, a story of recycled Tory hypocrisy. There can sometimes be temptation to focus too heavily on the ideological lineage of UKIP and the Brexit Party when trying to understand Reform in its current form, but its defining feature is not so much ideology as it is personnel. Nigel Farage, Richard Tice, Lee Anderson, Sarah Pochin - even leaving aside the current wave of Tory to Reform defectors, the story of the Reform Party is the story of disillusioned, sidelined, and often failed Conservative Party politicians.

This matters because at its heart the Reform Party is a contradiction. It’s a party that campaigns against the consequences of Conservative rule, while simultaneously being staffed almost entirely by the architects of that same demise. I can’t take seriously this outrage at ‘Broken Britain’ when it comes straight from the mouths of the people who broke it. Reform isn’t an insurgency against power, or a revolution against the elite class; it’s a desperate attempt by the members of that ruling establishment to escape their own records, and to dodge the blame that would come with them. More importantly, it’s a concerted effort by those whose politics have already done untold damage to this country to get themselves back into a position of power that would allow them to damage it further.
 
Old Salt said:
I fail to understand how any government with a large majority cannot, or are unwilling, to pass legislation outlawing illegal entry and anyone who has entered the country illegally has no right to object to being deported under any other legislation.

Round em up and ship them out!

If they want to claim asylum let them apply from abroad. It is my honest opinion that the majority of those entering the country are economic migrants.
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I think the law from 2023 already makes entry without a visa a criminal offence.

The difficulty, I think, is largely down to international treaties. We are obliged to take asylum applications under the Refugee Convention. And then, under the Torture Convention, we can't return people to countries where they might experience torture. On top of that, we can't force other countries to take their own people back. Finally, many have destroyed their papers, so it is not always possible to prove which country they came from.
 
MNW67 said:
I think the law from 2023 already makes entry without a visa a criminal offence.

The difficulty, I think, is largely down to international treaties. We are obliged to take asylum applications under the Refugee Convention. And then, under the Torture Convention, we can't return people to countries where they might experience torture. On top of that, we can't force other countries to take their own people back. Finally, many have destroyed their papers, so it is not always possible to prove which country they came from.
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And existing UK law. Trying to unpick human rights legislation without making it legal to deport spline for being a racist arsehole is very difficult and car beyond the capacity of the Tory party.
 
MNW67 said:
The difficulty, I think, is largely down to international treaties. We are obliged to take asylum applications under the Refugee Convention. And then, under the Torture Convention, we can't return people to countries where they might experience torture. On top of that, we can't force other countries to take their own people back. Finally, many have destroyed their papers, so it is not always possible to prove which country they came from.
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There are also the difficulties which many asylum seekers face in trying to claim asylum from outside the UK.
 
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